Carlos Monzon vs Sugar Ray Leonard

Fair points. Perhaps, though, Ray is able to switch angles enough to confuse Monzon and throw off his space awareness. The blueprint, I think someone may have already said, was laid down by Holyfield in the 2nd Bowe fight; in and out and use advantages in foot and hand speed.

And if it still goes a bit norks up, get someone to parachute in at a rocky moment.

 

Good points, Eddie:good. Agree to disagree time.

 

I'm merely saying though past his prime the Hagler that fought Leonard would not be an easy win for Monzon. Some disagree and that's cool

 

No. I can't disagree at all. I actually think you're right and that Monzon wins a close-ish decision. But it was good to consider all the possibles before arriving at a conclusion, which I'm still not sure of. I wish some of the more aggressive posters could do this but as I'm packing quite a trout in my trousers, I'll never come to grips (ooh matron) with what makes them so angry.

 

After all that waffling, I still couldn't care less about your opinion of Leonard.

I'll try again despite your obvious fanboyism.

Leonard was NEVER a great Middleweight.

Plenty would argue that Monzon was the greatest Middleweight ever.

On that basis Leonard has less than no chance of beating the Argentinian.

Also again,

For every punch Leonard threw when having his feet planted in the Hagler fight he threw 10 pitty pat shots on the run. And most of those were in the last 10 seconds of the rounds.

 

So you are using a MW Leonard that never actually existed?

 

And people claim those of us that don't worship at the altar of Leonard are biased.:roll::roll:

Carlos Monzón (August 7, 1942 – January 8, 1995) was an Argentine professional boxer who held the Undisputed World Middleweight Championship for 7 years. He successfully defended his title 14 times[1][2][3] and is widely regarded as not only one of the best middleweights in history but also one of the greatest boxers of all time. Known for his speed, punching power and relentless work rate, Monzon ended his career with a record of 87-3-9 with 59 knockouts, each one of his losses were early in his career and were avenged. Inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 1990, he was chosen by The Ring magazine in 2002 as the 11th greatest fighter of the last 80 years.

 

Monzón would be by far the best opponent leonard ever faced.plus he was bigger,stronger,hits harder and tougher

 

Obviously you are mentally re****ed... Because stamina,chin,mental toughness And hitting power have nothing to do with size..

 

:dealAnd what would be new for Leonard, with greater ring IQ.

 

Too many of you are totally ignorant about Monzon.

 

And what Monzon fight against a fighter with Ray Leonard's skill set are you basing your worldy knowledge of Monzon on ?

 

Most provocative post! Nice man. Having written that, what Leonard fight indicates Ray s greatness against a great middleweight?

 

So when did I say Leonard was a great Middle? No your problem is you see what you want to see. Just like any person with an agenda. When did I waffle? On what? My opinion is still that Monzon wouldnt just run Over Leonard. Only an idiot like you would belive that. Did Leonard still your girlfriend or something? Because you sound like its personal with him. And it had blinded you to his ability. To the point of over exaggerating Monzons.

 

The Valdez fights were Monzons last two ever so it's not like he himself was prime either.

I'd have to dig a little deeper before i'd agree Monzon ducked him. Certainly piqued my interest tho.