Who else goes 5-1-0 over Liston, Frazier & Foreman

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Under the right circumstances its certainly possible.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Only names that even remotely come to mind are Lewis and Holmes. Personally i don't see Holyfield getting enough W's.
     
  3. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Johnson
    Louis
    Holmes
    Lewis
    Vitali

    These ATG's have the best chance due to their longevity. However, I don't think it's possible. Someone like Tyson could conceivably do it back to back to back in succession.
     
  4. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Funny the people picking Louis And lewis..for start Louis would lose against them 3. Being generous he could beat frazier just maybe. Lewis would lose to forman and liston under this conditions
     
  5. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    I would give Lewis a fair chance for sure.

    Ali defeated these men in a 10 year period.

    So let's assume it's the version of Lewis that stopped Ruddock against Liston in 1964. A dangerous fight for an untested Lewis but he was prepared to step up to world level. In that fight he brought a nice gameplan, utilizing footwork, a good jab and of course his power was outstanding. I would give this version of Lewis a fair chance against a past-prime, sluggish Sonny. He stops Sonny in the rematch under dubious circumstances.

    Doesn't drop a match to Frazier. Terrible style for Joe, Lewis was more effective at controlling range than Foreman and his uppercuts are even more devastating.

    Which leaves him fighting Foreman in 2002 when he fought Mike Tyson. Dangerous fight for sure. Lewis was a bit past it at that point, but I'll pick him to outbox George and stop him late, with Foreman having a good punchers chance.

    So depending on circumstances, Lewis could go anywhere from 4-2, to 6-0 against them.
     
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  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree that Holmes and Lewis would come the closest but in this timeframe and reality,Holmes would be 38 when he meets a prime Foreman. He would definitely lose.
     
  7. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis was the first name that came to mind.
     
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  8. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When you see a question put like that you see how special Ali was.
    I could see Lewis rolling Frazier and Liston over easy-ish.
    Foreman not so.
     
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  9. benbo1445

    benbo1445 mombasa Full Member

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    no one, and most of those fights he was past his peak. his peak was the mid to late sixties and he missed a lot of it because he was banned.
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The answer is Foreman.

    Young Foreman beats an old Liston twice. He has already showed himself capable of taking long layoffs and remaining viable, so he's favored to return and beat Frazier three times based on what actually happened in real life. Finally, an ageing Foreman uses his greater patience, durability, and knowledge of his own psychology to rope-a-dope himself in Zaire.
     
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  11. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I laughed...but you may bloody well be right!
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great answer, this is the closest post that mirrors my thoughts on this topic.
     
  13. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Great post there, thanks.
     
  14. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I think only Ali could pull this off.


    Maybe:

    Louis
    Johnson
    Marciano
    Dempsey
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    In regard to Marciano, it would be Foreman who would be that "bridge to far" for Rocky.