Haye installed at 12 in nee WBC rankings

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  1. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed, and I think you speak for most of us in saying that, but unfortunately it's way off happening. Rankings can be bribed and tampered with. Less boards and more transparency would be great.
     
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    It's crazy how much Haye is still absurdly overrated. Haye's best wins, actually by far at hw, were koing shot Ruiz, barely beating shot Valuev, and koing Chisora after Chisora was roughing him up. And now the guy is over 3.5 years removed from fighting a legit contender and has had serious shoulder surgery, 10 pounds heavier than he ever fought before, and 35 years old. All of that poses severe questions for someone with his boxing style.

    If AJ beats Martin, Haye would be a very logical next opponent, or at least opponent after next. The big fight for AJ is Fury, where there is much more doubt about whether he could win or not. Haye would probably make about as much money for Hearn AJ as Fury would (they'd be at best 50/50 contract with Fury, and at least 70/30 with Haye) for much less danger, and it would help build the Fury fight and give AJ experience with a top rate speed guy.

    Hearn has built AJ's career perfectly at this point, and I'd be surprised and disappointed if they didn't make the Haye fight before the Fury fight.
     
  3. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How do you know it was one sided? A 1.5 second selectively edited clip? Unless you have more info than that, I'm not buying it. I keep hearing about how horrible Wilder is in sparring, and then it never materializes. I saw a ton of very credible sounding people, some of whom said they were in the gym at the time, who said Harrison dominated and kd'd Wilder in sparring. I dunno, maybe they weren't lying, maybe the guy just spars badly and he's totally different in a real match. He wouldn't be the first.
     
  4. N17

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    I will find it rather funny if AJ wins the IBF world title and British boxing fans are demanding AJ Vs Haye and Hearn ignores the calls after banging on about Khan Vs Brook for years and telling anybody who cares to listen that he wants to deliver what the public want.
     
  5. Espin88

    Espin88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the Reality is that Harrison spars very well, but loses all confidence when he has to take the headgear off in a real fight against a big puncher.

    Where as Wilder relies on brute force & wild big punches to knock his opponents out as quick as possible, so he probably wouldn't spar that well.
     
  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    By all accounts it wasn't at all competitive. Beyond that it's obvious why Wilder wouldn't want to fight Haye. He punch very hard and with both hands.

    He'd rather give some other subpar opponent a few weeks notice and a lowball offer than take up an real sort of challenge otherwise he would of fought someone credible in his reign as 'champion' already.
     
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    Sly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You probably need to listen to an account from someone who was there rather than heresay based on a manipulated youtube comp.
     
  8. joegray

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    Who's in the top 15 IBF that Haye could get over in May?
    Chisora? Pulev? Steve Cunningham?
    Despatching Cunningham early would be good PR after him flooring Fury. Do they have unsettled business from their Cruiserweight days?