Floyd Mayweather: Canelo is the A-Side; Golovkin Should Fight Him @ 155 (!)

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  1. Pimp C

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  2. "TKO"

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    Looks like Floyd has taken up the crackpipe in his retirement. If Alvarez agreed to his own silly weight demands because he wanted a payday then that's up to him. However, as a genuine fan of the sport, rather than a lovesick teenybopper style groupie of one particular fighter, there is no reason why this matter should even be up for debate. Golovkin holds the WBA and IBF middleweight titles. Alvarez holds the WBC and paper titles. The middleweight limit is 160lbs. QED. As a genuine fan of the sport, I have no interest in "ner ner my fighter earns more money than yours so ha ha" p---ing contests unlike most of this board. I simply want to see the best fight the best and the fights decided by who is the better fighter, not due to the fact that one man is entering the ring with the dice loaded in his favour.

    If Alvarez wants to vacate the WBC belt and stop getting in the way of genuine middleweights fighting for it, step back to 154 and then talk about catchweight fights then fair enough. However, it is a disgrace for a fighter to be going round calling himself a world middleweight champ but refusing to fight at, or even near, the middleweight limit (and that's from someone who, until this whole sorry saga, actually quite liked him). Boxing has weight divisions for a reasons. I don't think any genuine fan of the sport can defend this bull-s!!!
     
  3. bandeedo

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    [QUOTE="TKO";17777632]Looks like Floyd has taken up the crackpipe in his retirement. If Alvarez agreed to his own silly weight demands because he wanted a payday then that's up to him. However, as a genuine fan of the sport, rather than a lovesick teenybopper style groupie of one particular fighter, there is no reason why this matter should even be up for debate. Golovkin holds the WBA and IBF middleweight titles. Alvarez holds the WBC and paper titles. The middleweight limit is 160lbs. QED. As a genuine fan of the sport, I have no interest in "ner ner my fighter earns more money than yours so ha ha" p---ing contests unlike most of this board. I simply want to see the best fight the best and the fights decided by who is the better fighter, not due to the fact that one man is entering the ring with the dice loaded in his favour.

    If Alvarez wants to vacate the WBC belt and stop getting in the way of genuine middleweights fighting for it, step back to 154 and then talk about catchweight fights then fair enough. However, it is a disgrace for a fighter to be going round calling himself a world middleweight champ but refusing to fight at, or even near, the middleweight limit (and that's from someone who, until this whole sorry saga, actually quite liked him). Boxing has weight divisions for a reasons. I don't think any genuine fan of the sport can defend this bull-s!!![/QUOTE]

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  6. Reg

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    Floyd doesn't care about GGG and people asking him to fight him.

    Floyd is interested in this fight because if Canelo loses to GGG then Floyd's resume takes a hit. Canelo was supposed to become a great mexican fighter after Mayweather beat him.
     
  7. C.J.

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    Only A side the Mayweathers know is the A side Meth they claimed Pac was on ROFL cost em big $$$$$ too didn't it?? :smoke
     
  8. C.J.

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    Now Ive seen it all ROFLMAO An idiotic attempt to insult GGG fans & people suffering from autism. All because El Pollo Canelo refuses to obey the rules of boxing & the crooked WBC are letting him.
    The Middleweight title is to be fought for at a weight limit of 160 pounds. END of story!! All Gennady is asking for is that the rules be adhered too. YOU!! are the mentally slow user buddy if you do not understand that. Oscar & his red topped El Pollo know that if they did that that , as any real champion would, the game is over El Pollo gets his feathers PLUCKED!!!!
    BTW Does anyone remember Teddy Red Top Davis ?? Now than red headed man was a REAL FIGHTER !!!!!
     
  9. drenlou

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  10. stebinn

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    [QUOTE="TKO";17777632]Looks like Floyd has taken up the crackpipe in his retirement. If Alvarez agreed to his own silly weight demands because he wanted a payday then that's up to him. However, as a genuine fan of the sport, rather than a lovesick teenybopper style groupie of one particular fighter, there is no reason why this matter should even be up for debate. Golovkin holds the WBA and IBF middleweight titles. Alvarez holds the WBC and paper titles. The middleweight limit is 160lbs. QED. As a genuine fan of the sport, I have no interest in "ner ner my fighter earns more money than yours so ha ha" p---ing contests unlike most of this board. I simply want to see the best fight the best and the fights decided by who is the better fighter, not due to the fact that one man is entering the ring with the dice loaded in his favour.

    If Alvarez wants to vacate the WBC belt and stop getting in the way of genuine middleweights fighting for it, step back to 154 and then talk about catchweight fights then fair enough. However, it is a disgrace for a fighter to be going round calling himself a world middleweight champ but refusing to fight at, or even near, the middleweight limit (and that's from someone who, until this whole sorry saga, actually quite liked him). Boxing has weight divisions for a reasons. I don't think any genuine fan of the sport can defend this bull-s!!![/QUOTE]

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  11. RacingBeat

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    [QUOTE="TKO";17777632]Looks like Floyd has taken up the crackpipe in his retirement. If Alvarez agreed to his own silly weight demands because he wanted a payday then that's up to him. However, as a genuine fan of the sport, rather than a lovesick teenybopper style groupie of one particular fighter, there is no reason why this matter should even be up for debate. Golovkin holds the WBA and IBF middleweight titles. Alvarez holds the WBC and paper titles. The middleweight limit is 160lbs. QED. As a genuine fan of the sport, I have no interest in "ner ner my fighter earns more money than yours so ha ha" p---ing contests unlike most of this board. I simply want to see the best fight the best and the fights decided by who is the better fighter, not due to the fact that one man is entering the ring with the dice loaded in his favour.

    If Alvarez wants to vacate the WBC belt and stop getting in the way of genuine middleweights fighting for it, step back to 154 and then talk about catchweight fights then fair enough. However, it is a disgrace for a fighter to be going round calling himself a world middleweight champ but refusing to fight at, or even near, the middleweight limit (and that's from someone who, until this whole sorry saga, actually quite liked him). Boxing has weight divisions for a reasons. I don't think any genuine fan of the sport can defend this bull-s!!![/QUOTE]

    Yes thank you for this post finally reality in this forum Jesus
     
  12. Richmondpete

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    Canelo losing to ggg would mean nothing to Floyd's resume. If canelo wins however.....
     
  13. shadow111

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    [QUOTE="TKO";17777632]Looks like Floyd has taken up the crackpipe in his retirement. If Alvarez agreed to his own silly weight demands because he wanted a payday then that's up to him. However, as a genuine fan of the sport, rather than a lovesick teenybopper style groupie of one particular fighter, there is no reason why this matter should even be up for debate. Golovkin holds the WBA and IBF middleweight titles. Alvarez holds the WBC and paper titles. The middleweight limit is 160lbs. QED. As a genuine fan of the sport, I have no interest in "ner ner my fighter earns more money than yours so ha ha" p---ing contests unlike most of this board. I simply want to see the best fight the best and the fights decided by who is the better fighter, not due to the fact that one man is entering the ring with the dice loaded in his favor.[/quote]

    It illustrates just how bad of an ambassador of boxing Floyd has become. He started this whole catchweight shenanigans by demanding Canelo drain himself to make a ridiculous catchweight..

    .. in a division where both Floyd and Canelo held world titles (154) and both had fought at that weight before. Floyd set a bad example of attempting to drain Canelo. Canelo held firm to an extent, if Floyd fully had his way Canelo would have had to drain himself to 147 to 150.

    It’s revealing from a boxing standpoint, because now Floyd has to take this stance because that’s what he did to Canelo, and now he wants Canelo to do the same thing to GGG. Floyd created this mess by trying (somewhat successfully) to weight drain Canelo. Had Floyd not done that, Canelo would still be defending his 154-lb title.

    As I’ve said before, Alvarez was not given his rematch with Floyd. Floyd was able to hold onto that belt for 2 years because he was too scared to fight Canelo. He was able to get the commissions to allow his 147-lb title fight with Maidana to “count” as a 154-lb title defense.

    What Floyd did from the moment the negotiations started with Canelo back in 2013 to where we are now is a direct result of Floyd attempting to weight drain Canelo.

    We wouldn’t be here now, Canelo wouldn’t be “defending” the MW title at 155 if it wasn’t for what Floyd did and what Floyd was allowed to do by the commissions. Canelo would still have his belt.

    Everything we are dealing with now is a direct result of Floyd trying to weight drain Canelo. The guy that goes around calling himself TBE, and setting a bad example for the future of boxing. The sooner ya’ll understand that. I don’t like how Canelo is being blamed for what Floyd did to the 154-lb and 160-lb division. Canelo wanted to fight Floyd at 154-lb like a normal unification fight. Floyd was scared of Canelo so he tried to weight drain him. The result of the fight was a Majority Decision that one judge had it a draw. The Judge was attacked by the media for being crazy and essentially exiled from boxing. After all that, Canelo the fighting champion that he is wanted a well deserved rematch with Floyd. Floyd was too scared. That’s why we’re here.
     
  14. boxsensei

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    You say Floyd started the CW's huh.........cause the way I recall Manny drained Cotto to a 145 catchweight in 2009, 4 years before Floyd Canelo, but dont let the truth get in the ay of your Floyd gate.
     
  15. shadow111

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    You’re right, and Floyd went out of his way to criticize Manny draining Cotto in the buildup to Floyd Cotto. He said he still considered Cotto an undefeated fighter because of that. I agreed with Floyd back then and I liked Floyd a lot because he didn’t drain fighters. Floyd fought guys straight up precisely because he wanted to prove that he is truly TBE. But then what he tried to do to Canelo showed that Floyd didn’t wanna fight Canelo straight up at the normal limit like he criticized Manny for doing in 2009.

    Floyd has become a trend setter. What happened in the fight between Floyd and Canelo has set the stage for all this 154-lb / 160-lb drama we see now. Before that, there was no talk about re-hydration clauses or catchweights, it was just boxing. But Floyd trying to weight drain Canelo changed all that. It resulted in the 154-lb division being held hostage (literally) for 2 years to where Canelo’s only opportunity at a title shot was at MW. This is how scared Floyd is of Canelo and the ramifications it has had on boxing. The guy that goes around calling himself TBE lol. This is how Floyd left the sport .. in such disarray, setting such a bad example, and a bad precedent, and having to defend it by saying Canelo should try to weight drain GGG.