When will people realise that Dillian Whyte is an absolute bum heavyweight?

The other day I saw people on this forum suggest that Whyte would easily beat Charles Martin. On what ****ing basis? Who has Whyte beaten? Nobody. He's a fat, plodding heavyweight who absorbs so much punishment in every fight and only knows how to box in one direction. There's no gameplan in any of his fights.

Fair play to him for being a tough guy and displaying a lot of fortitude in his performances but let's be honest, he was being outboxed by Brian Minto FFS. Whyte is not and will never be world class. He might beat Chisora because they are two peas in the same pod when it comes to boxing but he has no chance in hell of beating either of the Furies, Joshua or Haye and will never land a world title shot unless it's a voluntary. And he will be smashed to pieces in a world title fight by anyone.

 

Well, he is still in the development stage of his career so he can improve, but he does tend to get over hyped quite a bit considering he has beaten no one of note and has shown some major flaws.

Unless he makes big changes to his more obvious flaws, then i see him as a Euro champion level fighter.

 

His record is still better than Chuckles Martina.

 

Is it?

They both have fought the usual journeymen and low tier opposition you would expect from up and comers. Whyte has fought mainly the Euro fighters of this ilk and Martin the American ones.

 

It's not. This is particularly the kind of idiotic post that made me create this thread. Martin has never been outboxed by a small Cruiserweight like Minto. Martin is better than Whyte in every department except for maybe punch resistance and we'll see about that on April 9th.

 

But Whyte gets rid of these people quick, Martin takes twice the rounds. He's an appalling bum, and you are an idiot for not seeing that.

 

Martin is not a wild slugger which is all Whyte is. Martin fights behind his jab and looks for openings, uses his footwork to find the right distance and controls fights.

Put Whyte in with Glazkov and he'd be swinging wildly from round one and Glazkov would win every round with the jab.

 

Well we never got to see Martin vs Glazkov proper did we. Martin looks clumsy and slow to me, the kind of guy the Klits went through like a hot knife slicing butter for 20 years.

 

That's besides the point. Sure Fury and Ortiz would make mincemeat out of Martin.

The point of the thread here is that people need to stop talking about Whyte as if he's some sort of legit heavyweight threat atm. Because people on the forum actually believe he would easily beat Martin and there is nothing suggesting he would.

 

It's still largely unknown whether Whyte is any good or not.
The same can be said of Charles Martin but I do think Martin is more likely to turn out to be good, because he's more of a boxer type. There are some very good and effective boxers who don't look all that but get the job done and are deceptive.

For example, almost everyone thought Tyson Fury was clumsy and mediocre for many many years, myself included.

 

I just gave you the reason: he's taken significantly less rounds than Martin to beat similar journeyman over his 21 fights. Less than half if you exclude the Femi fight, Femi being light years above Martin's bum sheet.

 

So did David Price.

You know what happens to bums who come into fights swinging wildly, taking endless shots to the chin and who rely on power to try and win fights quickly? They don't get anywhere in boxing.

 

Fury was seen as that until he drastically changed his style around the long lay off for the proposed Haye fight. But, i see your point about Martin.

I think Froch would be a better example. He was seen, and still is by many, as an athletically ungifted fighter with many technical flaws, but who had a good punch and great chin. Whilst there is a lot of truth to this, when Froch fought smart, his use and judgment of distance and the pacing of a fight mixed with his awkwardness and ability to get the most out of what he had, made him a hell of a lot harder to beat in person than he looked on film.

 

Knocking someone out quicker than someone else does not necessarily make you the better fighter.

 

Pure speculation on your part, fact is Whyte hits harder than Martin as borne out by rounds boxed vs similar opposition.