When moving up weight does a fighter really "lose" his power

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  1. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh wow, now fmj was the only fighter in the history to find and use instantly working ped's and also allowed to somehow numb his facking hands ??? WTF is wrong with some of you facking re****ed ****ing imbeciles
     
  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    What are you rambeling about nitwit?
    Use of Xylocaine/Lidocaine and how it works is very clearly documented, and Floyd has mentioned using it to numb his hands HIMSELF!

    So before you start screaming and accusing people for being stupid or even imbeciles and making Floydypants look bad, you better first read up on stuff like that!
    It does say a lot about your own intelligence level to just start ranting about a subject you clearly know nothing about.
     
  3. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Floyd would even admit to you he used Xylocaine.. Now it wasn't banned in nevada while he used it and he should not be persicuted for it, but it kept him offensive and kept him winning.
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Indeed.
    But if you read the nitwit's response, I'm some sort of imbecile to believe that stuff actually excists :roll:
     
  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Yeah, you're correct... Maybe the poster is mis informed?
     
  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pretty much previous posts cover this:

    Fighters lose power when they move up because:

    • Loss of height/reach = decrease in connect, range, leverage
    • Decrease in work-rate due to stamina, if they added actual weight
    • Increased difficulty in coping with punches from rangier guys
    • Decreased success harming big guys accustomed to more power
    • Loss of capability to physically impose themselves on opponents
    • Move usually done later, when reflexes are fading or starting to fade
     
  7. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he wasn't. You can only use xylocaine in training, not during the fights.
     
  8. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    A bunch of bogasity from Abel Sanchez. Every trainer who's ever trained a puncher say's things along those lines.

    Fighters wear bigger gloves and headgear for sparring, of course they can take Golovkins punches.

    I guarantee you Golovkin spars with fighters of all sizes. He's got to if he wants to be well rounded. You spar bigger guys to accustom yourself to matching yourself with strenghth and power, and you spar smaller guys to help deal with opposition that can be quicker and faster than you are.
     
  9. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with this. Good post.
     
  10. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Good post, usually this is the general rule of thumb. Tho there are exceptions, fighters like Jimmy Wilde, Roberto Duran, Manny Pacquiao,or Alexis Arguello, fighters that carried their power well or could hurt larger men no problem.
     
  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    You typically lose power once you leave your natural weight class. Natural Weight class is basically the weight class you're most comfortable fighting at when you are 24 or 25 (when you finished growing).

    Pacquiao for example did not lose power going from 112 to 122 or 122 to 126 because he was still growing. He did start losing some at 130+

    Hearns did not lose power going from 147 to 154 because he was young and still growing. If anything he hit even harder at 154 than 147, but at 160+ he started losing a little power. But still carried it well like Pacquiao. Just not quite the same as natural weight class.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's not true. He only rehydrated to 139 in his first fight at 130 pounds!

    At 126 he was barely rehydrating to 135 pounds.
     
  13. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Hearns lost power , relatively speaking. He is another case of hands not holding up. Like he actually broke his hand on Hagler's iron skull if I recall correctly.
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Interesting. Maybe he didn't lose power relatively speaking. But it would be amazing if say he hit equally hard p4p at 175 and 154.
     
  15. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're an idiot. People ready to defend Mayweather at the slightest sign of criticism should not be allowed to post. Numbing your hands is not against the rules so long as you have a reason for doing so. David Haye got his broken toe numbed for his fight against Wlad. Nobody is calling Haye a cheater. The problem is that Mayweather used his hands as an excuse for most of his career. Meanwhile, Tommy Hearns broke his hand horribly during his career and still managed to maintain his image of one of the hardest one punch hitters in boxing history,