How does a prime 140 Hatton do in today's division?

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  1. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How did the ref help with those black eyes??
     
  2. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol:The only person being schooled here is yourself. Allow me to explain something to you. When you lie, you lose credibility. And you lied to suit your agenda:yep. You wrote "drained" De la Hoya when he fought Mayweather. Even though he fought at middleweight against Sturm, and at a 158 pound catch weight against Hopkins, he was bloated in both those fights. Proof? Before fighting Fluid, ODLH fought Ricardo Mayorga at 153.5(after Hopkins and Sturm) then fought May for the 154 pound title and then fought Forbes at 150 after May. So how could he have been drained when he fought at 154 against Fluid? I can't wait to hear your answer. Do yourself a favor. Next time you lie, be better at it because when you lie so blatantly, you look bad. Actually the time that ODLH was weight drained was when he fought Pac and weighed 145. Yeah, but Floyd forced Hatton to fight at 147, because doesn't everyone know that Floyd GOT BETTER AT 147 THEN HE WAS AT 140 AND THEN FORCED HATTON TO FIGHT HIM there:lol:. Oops another emoticon. I must be a Fluid fanboy. Funny part is that I happen to agree with you about Marquez and Mosely. Another question, where are you from?
     
  3. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do realize, that Mayweather started his career 2 divisions below Hatton?? Its ok, for Mayweather to move up 5 divisions yet he gets no passes or excuses but Hatton moves up one and you blame to naturally smaller man (Floyd) only who moved up to chase big fights.

    Hatton lost because Mayweather was too skilled, it had nothing to do with weight.
     
  4. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What has Ruslan done to prove he's any better?

    Hatton does well in today's division. He'd struggle in some fights and maybe lose a fight or two but overall he'd be one of the best in the division. A bit like Froch at 168.
     
  5. Clinton

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    I never said Hatton wasn't good. I wrote he was vastly overrated because he 'beat' 35 year old, fighting once a year Kostya Tszyu with a truckload of help from Dave Parriss. Question. Do you believe the outcome would be the same if they were both prime and Parriss wasn't the ref? But as far as Ruslan is concerned, he punches better than Hatton and has a better chin. The question should be what has Hatton done that would indicate he'd beat Ruslan, although in Manchester with Parriss as the ref, I'd bet on Hatton anytime even though I don't gamble.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    gets KOed just like he did in his era.
     
  7. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No I don't believe Hatton would beat a prime Tszyu but Ruslan is no prime Tszyu.

    What has Hatton done to prove he's better? Beaten better opposition and displayed superior boxing ability.

    During his prime Hatton only lost to fast, elite fighters. Ruslan would probably be too slow and basic/crude/unskilled to beat him.
     
  8. Clinton

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    Ricky's chin wasn't the best, and he was quite hittable, which you already know. He was sent reeling by light punching Luis Collazo and was knocked out by Mayweather, who was NOT a big puncher either. Knowing how hittable Hatton was, my money would be on Ruslan.
     
  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Picking out one little detail and arguing semantics doesn't qualify as a proper refute. Neither does typing in bold. His point was that Mayweather wasn't fighting a prime fighter. Nobody think ODLH wasn't past it when those two finally met. You should probably focus on refuting his actual point and stay on the discussion topic on Ricky Hatton though.
     
  10. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hittable by guys a lot slicker and more skillful than Ruslan. Hatton did also take a lot of Tszyu's punches.
     
  11. Clinton

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    He was also rocked by Lazcano
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'd love to see Hatton mop the floor with Broner.
     
  13. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only ever stopped or beaten in his prime by guys a lot faster and more skilled than Provodnikov though.

    Ruslan would be a live underdog and he would have that puncher's chance but he would be an underdog imo.
     
  14. Clinton

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    No, his point wasn't in so much that he wasn't fighting a prime fighter, more so that he claimed Mayweather ducked Hatton at 140, and then lied to support his argument. I believe that that destroyed his credibility. I have no doubt that Floyd has cherry picked in the past, as I wrote that I agreed with his assessment of Marquez and Mosely v Mayweather. But when you make a point and then lie to support it, you lose credibility.
     
  15. Clinton

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    Agree to disagree except for the underdog part.