Tom Loeffler: “It’s not a verbal. Everything is in writing"

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  1. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I hear K2 renamed Golovkin after a popular German adult industry LGBT site; GGG?
     
  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The reality is literally the exact opposite of what you think it is. Golovkin doesn't want everything in his favor, he only wants the fight at 160. Canelo is the A-side so he gets to choose how everything goes down EXCEPT the weight the fight happens at and anything lower than a 75/25 purse. Because thats what the WBC rules state in regards to the title holder fighting his mandotory.

    Golovkin isn't demanding a single thing, he only refusing Canelo's corrupt demand that shouldn't be allowed.
     
  3. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    :good

    Canelo should defend his lineal middlweight title @ 160 lbs or go back @ 154. If not, he should be stripped, PERIOD!
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You know, Canelo said since before facing Cotto he would fight anyone at 155 lbs, its not like Canelo is demanding that only Golovkin fight him at 155 lbs.
    I know what the middleweight limit is, and again I'll say that Canelo isn't the one that has set the precedent for such demands.
    Boxing's alphabet groups for years have let certain fighters bend the rules and dictate different terms that normally are not within the rules.

    For example, if you ask Jose Sulaiman's son who now heads the WBC about the issue, he'll state that its out of his hands if the fighters want to negotiate a catchweight, the only thing they do is sanction it as a title fight if it falls within the required weight limits and neither fighter weighs over 160 lbs.
    Its called bending the rules, and Canelo is certainly not the first cash cow to make such demands. In fact, Floyd did it to him when they fought.
     
  5. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Lineal titles, by definition, don't get "stripped".

    :smoke
     
  6. mrdoctor

    mrdoctor GGG Full Member

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    Mado does not have to negotiate a CW and k2 have said that they are happy to go to purse bid..canelo will vacate because he knows that GGG is unbeatable.. Everone is scared of GGG his a monster..remember Ward said no to HBO at the round table and GGG said yes
     
  7. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm aware of all of this. The difference being that Golovkin is the first fighter willing to halt the fight rather than give into demands. People seem to think Canelo compares to Mayweather or Pacquiao. In reality, he doesn't. What Pacqiuao and Mayweather brought to the table other than money was the fact that they were the two best fighters of an era, and that losing to them wouldn't end your career. Canelo isn't an elite fighter and many would have Canelo as the underdog in this fight. It's not a case of Golovkin needing Canelo. If Golovkin is perfectly fine with his financial well being then what does Canelo have to offer than Jacobs and Saunders don't? Golovkin would arguably get as much, if not more, credit for beating those two fighters as he would Canelo. Beating Canelo also doesn't raise his A-side profile with anyone else. Golovkin is already the A-side when it comes to anyone else at 160. Basically what I'm saying is that Canelo doesn't have as much leverage as people seem to think he does.

    Canelo basically has a few options. Lose to a guy you're expected to lose to, drop the belt and fight in a dead division at 154 under the guise that you're still a jr. MW, or be the Stevenson of the MW division and give the consensus champion the run around until you retire. Option one is the one he is going to chose for two reasons. While there are other high pay fights available Golovkin is the biggest payday, and one he and GBP don't want to pass up and the fact that it gives him a chance at defying the odds and becoming a huge superstar which isn't all that impossible.
     
  8. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo doesn't have to fight GGG. The purpose of getting this in contractual writing was to ensure that WBC follows through with stripping Canelo more-so than the actual fight.
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Youre behind the times The Mexican fans already christened him El Pollo Canelo. Mexican boxing has a proud reputation & are not happy having a coward represent them
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    For those of you old enough to remember Lennox Lewis , Razor Ruddock,
    Evander Holyfield & Rid**** Bowe signed a contract to decide the REAL HW Champ. Bowe-Holyfield & Lewis -Ruddock. The two winners to fight next to decide the champion.
    Newman & Bowe saw what Lewis did to Ruddock & immediately renaged on Lewis. Ending up with (Surprise) the WBC belt thrown in garbage
    This will just be a repeat A coward refusing to honour the rules because he knows he cannot beat his nemises.Canelo knows he cannot beat Golovkin
     
  11. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is an instance where the fighter, Bowe, really had no decision input in avoiding Lewis. The decision was made in whole by Newman who hadn't yet met his financial objectives in Bowe and so decided not to take the risk of fighting Lewis. Bowe pretty much went alnong with every business decision Newman presented and had no ambitions (like Mayweather for instance) of taking control of and making business decisions.`
    Although I loved Bowe's potential and talent, his physical and mental laziness was pathetic. The perfect fighter for a control freak like Newman.
     
  12. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    15 days will turn into 30 then other extensions will be applied for thru legal means.
     
  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    That's a load of nonsense. Fighters pulling catch weights have always been a one off circumstance.

    Canelo is entering his 5th fight at this made up 155 weight class. And this time its against a 140 pound glass chinner.

    He's a joke and a disgrace.
     
  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    What is Canelo's incentive to fight GGG in 2016? I don't see it, at any weight.
     
  15. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :yep
    Bet on it.

    GBP treats K2 and Golovkin as if they are nobodies. Just annoying inconveniences who they need to appease because of legalities.

    Neither ODLH or BHOP respect Little g because relative to each of them, he really is a nobody.