The 90s was the 2nd Best HW era..shouldn't Lennox be a Top 3 ATG

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  1. Gr8Mandingo

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    Look it, the first point I'd make is 90s era don't get enough love for Heavyweight...

    You got big time dudes like Evander, Rid****, Tyson, Lennox all with their tine at the top, and then second their guys that were either really tough or had great KO power like Mercer, Morisson, Moore, McCall, David Tua, and even the second George Foreman!!!

    As far as I'm concerned the 90s was right behind "the Golden Era" of the 60s and 70s as far as HW excitement, talent and competition

    Jack Johnson fought in a weak era where noone had fought any black guys before

    Jack Dempsey NEVER fought any black guys

    Joe Louis fought in another weak era where boxers were part time construction workers AND against Bums of The Month

    Marciano fought guys 10 and 15 years older than him in another weak era that was so weak his two greatest opponents were former Middle and Light Heavyweights

    So to me, in light of these facts, and in light of the fact that Lennox Lewis beat EVERYONE of his era AND even defeated one of the greats from the NEXT ERA when the doctor had to save Vitali Klitschko's ass from further punishment....

    In light of these fact I have Lennox Lewis at Number Two ALL TIME for a Heavyweight right behind Cassius Clay
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I am not certain that the 90s was the second best heavyweight era to be honest.

    Foreman and Holmes spoiled the party a bit, in terms of that argument.
     
  3. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Much as I love the 90s, like you say, janitor, it's a taint on the era that Foreman and Holmes were so competitive at the age they were. But it was probably still the 2nd best era, imo.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    I don't have a problem calling it the 2nd best era, in fact except of the upper echelons of the last 60's and the early 70's, I might even call it the best era in terms of overall depth. And as far as Foreman and Holmes go I think an older Foreman at least, would be competitive in any era given his power and durability.
     
  5. Gr8Mandingo

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    Foreman and Holmes both were fed easier opponents but Foreman was still a legit HW in the 90s
     
  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    It's a very good era in terms of depth but you can't call Lewis a top 3 atg based on that
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    U wot ?
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I liked the Holyfield-Bowe trilogy but don't think much of the 1990s as a "great era".

    Mercer, Morrison, Bruno, Botha, McCall, Hide etc.
    I don't think were anything special.
     
  9. LouisA

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    Some great fighters in the 90's, but the era wasn't good at all. To many fights that didn't happen or happened way to late.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    I both agree and disagree with some of the proposed notions. Yes the 90's was an excellent era in terms of raw talent.. You had about 4-5 ATG's who fought during the same period a few of whom were prime. You had a great trilogy with Holyfield and Bowe along with several memorable battles in the lower ranks of the division. But a lot of the bigger fights were either never made or simply made too late.. You had two 40 plus year old ex champs on the comeback trail who both breached the top 10 and one of them even captured the lineal title. You had a light heavyweight and a cruiserweight who competed in an era of superheavyweights, yet both won titles and one of them became the eras best fighter.. You had three of the biggest upsets in history during that period, i.e. Tyson vs Douglas, Lewis vs McCall and Foreman vs Moorer. You had men like McCall, Ruiz, Douglas, Seldon, etc winning titles. So Basically the talent was there but it existed in "pocket's" and wasn't always well manifested while lesser or older fighters were permitted to thrive. As for Lennox Lewis being top 3? I suppose an argument can be made. I have him at #5 however.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    Lennox is in my top 3. The only problem I have with him is suspect chin vs punchers.
     
  12. UFC2015

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    Top 3 heavyweights don't go down like over protected girls via one big shot to the face. Sorry
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The 70's were sh*t after Zaire, Ali defending against a succession of Eurobums and losing to Neon Leon. And I while I consider it compelling, I don't think two shot fighters pummeling each other in Manilla counts as greatness.


    The 90's were the greatest and deepest era in the division's history.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    I get that, but Lewis fought plenty of punchers. More than anyone else, perhaps save Ali.

    Yes--Lewis can get whacked, but it only happened twice and he avenged both losses.

    Ali was outboxed more than twice. I can't see Lewis losing to Norton or Fraizer, can you?
     
  15. HerolGee

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    they actually do.