Wilder hits about as hard as Fury, nothing more

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  1. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Fury is the superior boxer, has far more dimensions, and thus, more ways to beat oppenents -- including breaking them down mentally.

    However, Wilder does have greater one-shot power; but, as has been pointed out already, he needs to be in the right positions and be set to land those fight-ending shots. He had Stiverne reeling in the early going, but got a little crazy. Had Wilder been more composed when he had Stiverne hurt and intelligently selected the right shots, he would have stopped Stiverne in the 3rd or 4th round. As it was, he didn't.

    Wilder has fight-ending power, and precious little else. Look how he struggled with Szpilka's defence, movement and angles in the early going of their fight.
     
  2. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    wilder has very good power/ but the true test of power is v top 15 opponents

    so sfar he has faced 1 and did not stop him

    dominic guinn would have let us know wilders power was a 10 as zop says but the match was never made

    fact is its still hard to tell with wilder how hard he really hits as every single 1 of the 36 opponents he has faced has been stopped or dropped before he fought them by far inferior fightwers than wilder.

    i think he carries genuine power but not as hard as wlad

    fury has only average power less than wilder for sure IMO.
     
  3. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    The intangible, of course, would be whether Wilder could land a huge bomb on Fury. As great as Fury's powers of recovery and fighting heart are, I highly doubt he'd have made it up from the type of right hand Wilder landed on Szpilka to close the show. Then again, which heavyweight would have?
     
  4. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Fury is more accurate than Wilder, and far more composed when he is in the right positions to let the right shots go. With Fury -- who doesn't punch his weight, it has to be said -- it is a breaking down and disheartening effect that comes from an accumulation of punches.

    That said, I wouldn't particularly fancy taking a dig from big Tyson. :nut
     
  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    How many one punch KO's does Fury have?

    Wilder has several. Fury is feather fisted for his size and he is scared to throw punches even when he has a dead guy in front of him.
     
  6. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    fury does not sit down on his punches /does not use a lot of body torque /

    he is a man mountain and of course that makes him heavy handed / but i agree with the breaking down of opponents by him as he did with chisora 2 /cunningham

    wilder loads up to much /does not get his legs in the right position under him a lot of the time but is imo a harder 1 punch fighter with either hand.
     
  7. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I take that ban bet wondering what makes anyone think povetkin could ever pull that huge upset. What had povetkin ever done that could make one think he's going to give himself a chance against a way faster, way more powerful fighter that has a chin that's lights years better.

    One could argue povetkin has the more sound technical skills which is only due to his long amateur career.

    Wilder's talent is so many levels above povetkin, povetkin had already got his ceiling while Wilder is just beginning his climb.

    This fight is a total waste of time for me.
    Wilder and Joshua should really be granted the wins without having to waste their time.

    Martin vs povetkin is a pickem fight and Wilder vs joshua is a pickem but only because Wilder has insane power.

    DW vs AJ is the best h2h hw fight that's been even a possibility in all my 40+ years of obsessing over this sport.

    Fury vs haye is the other great hw fight, I only think that's great because haye will hurt fury and hurt him badly. The only reason wlad was able to handle haye like he did was because Hayes broken large toe.

    "Fans" claiming the broken toe didn't limit haye to 10/15% of his actual capabilities are complete trolls.

    I'd love watching haye wax the floor with fury and povetkin, that could literally be handled in a single weekend, barring any legit injuries. .
     
  8. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That picture of Szpilka laid out to sleep should win a prestigious prize. Makes any argument that Wilder doesn't have power just look completely ridiculous. Fury's power is nowhere near Wilder's. This is not debatable. Fury isn't sparking fighters out.
     
  9. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol::rofl
     
  10. ki_ote

    ki_ote Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder ko 97%
    Fury ko 72%
    catchwtboxing ko 0%
     
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very amusing comment

    Interesting thread though, that has put forward some facts
     
  12. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Active HW - nobody.
    Maybe Vitaly.:good
     
  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder broke his hand on Stiverne's head going for the early KO. That's why he had to box his way to win during the second half of the fight. There was no dispute the hand was broken.

    (And if you saw the Demetrice King-Stiverne fight you wouldn't even bring it up. It was an awful, totally unwarranted stoppage that was universally panned at the time - probably before your time.)

    Duhaupas had never been stopped. And Duhaupas is fighting Helenius next. Let's see how fast Helenius stops him. (If Helenius even wins.)

    Spzilka was carted out on a stretcher and had to be hospitalized. That was nothing like the Jennings TKO.

    Sergei Liakhovich was having convulsions on the floor when he was wiped out in one ... and Liakhovich came back and appeared to outpoint Andy Ruiz after that.

    Firtha fought Fury, and it was a typical British early stoppage because Firtha had a damaged nose. Wilder left Firtha semi-conscious on the floor not able to control his body movements.

    Wilder has knocked out everyone - often brutally - except for the guy he broke his right hand against.

    Wilder doesn't jab and jab and jab and then wait until the late rounds to finally move on a tired opponent and maybe score a standing TKO ... like many do.

    He goes for the kill, and has gotten it in every fight (except for the one in which he suffered a broken hand - bouncing it off a guy's skull.)

    If you don't see that, you're either biased or you haven't been paying attention.
     
  14. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder has faults but is improving but hits very hard .his power has allowed him to remain undefeated .he has natural power as his technique improves he will become more dangerous.
     
  15. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury does probably hit harder than Wilder.

    Certainly Wilder doesn't hit harder than guys like Jennings, who looked MUCH better in stopping bum Splika.

    Wilder pounded for 12 rounds on Stiverne's face, and he was dehydrated. Demetrice King hits harder.

    Wilder only looks impressive against total bums.

    But then his fans whine when Joshua looks better against about the same level of opposition.
     
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