GGG has to Move up In Weight if Wants to Be great

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Do you like to make up **** just to be heard and further your bull**** agenda?

    Guys who all outweighed him on fight night:deal

    JLC
    Gatti
    Baldo
    Oscar
    Hatton
    Ortiz
    Mosley
    Guerrero
    Cotto
    Maidana
    Canelo
     
  2. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Floyd refused to weigh in on fight night, are there official numbers for Canelo and Maidana fight night weights?
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Only a fool would think PBF weighed more than Maidana or Canelo on fight night.
     
  4. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    So in other words you don't know...
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Common sense both of these guys are bigger than pbf. Only a fool or troll would think pbf weighed more than canelo or maidana on fight night.
     
  6. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Floyd refused to weigh in for many of his fights on fight night.
    Without the data everything is speculation.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He showed his fight night weight more often than he didn't show it. During those times he never weighed anymore than 152. Even if he did weigh more for maidana and canelo he still didn't weigh more than they did on fight night unless you're crazy enough to believe he weighed 165 plus in those fights which is hilarious.
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Just because he moves up doesn't mean he will get those fights. He shouldn't consider moving up until he becomes undisputed at MW. He could knock out every champ at MW right now.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm saying it's naive to think Andre would have fought him at 168.

    Andre was in no position to have a big fight with anyone, and he hasn't been for some time.

    A fight with GG wasn't viable even if GG had've agreed to every stipulation. That's my opinion.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    boxsensei,

    :patsch

    I would have better luck explaining this to one of my cats.

    Floyd fighting Canelo and Maidana, is NOT the equivilant of GG fighting Kovalev, Ward and Stevenson.

    Nobody is talking about what's fair and what isn't.

    I am merely telling you that Floyd was only outsized and outweighed in one of his fights.

    That is a FACT.

    Yes, he was outweighed, yes he fought bigger guys. But he did not fight guys who were bigger AND heavier than him on a regular basis, like what GG would have to do if he moved up to LHW. All of which means that your initial point holds no weight.

    You said "Floyd had the courage to move up and fight bigger guys, so Golovkin should do the same and move up to LHW"

    Again, what I'm saying is, although Floyd did fight bigger guys, the circumstances are very different.

    Fighting Maidana who was a few pounds heavier, IS NOT the same as asking GG to concede height, weight, and 7" in reach, if he was to fight a guy like Stevenson.

    I've never had as much trouble explaining something to someone.

    It's not an excuse.

    I'm merely arguing with your original point. You are demanding that GG does something that Floyd only did once in his career.

    COURAGE?


    Demanding O.S.D.T. and arguing about fighting Manny, WHEN:

    There was ZERO EVIDENCE of any wrong doing.

    NOBODY ELSE had an issue fighting him.


    Dragging Canelo down to 152, despite being a JMW champ, and also claiming he didn't care what Canelo rehydrated to.


    Deliberately coming in overweight against JMM to gain an advantage.


    Running from a huge money rematch against Oscar, despite at every opportunity, claiming to be in the "cheque cashing business"


    Dictating gloves, ring size, officials and other stipulations.



    The cherry on the cake:

    Needing an emergency IV due to severe dehydration, despite priding himself on his walking around weight.


    You might want to look at the word COURAGE more closely.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Before you jump to Floyd's aid, I suggest you reread my post.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I read you post and it's complete bull****. So I guess Baldo isn't a naturally bigger man than PBF? What about Oscar? Log off.
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let me get this straight, YOU are telling me to log off?

    :lol:

    Go back and reread the part of my post that you highlighted.

    :good
     
  14. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't waste youre time pimp. Ive been lighting his dumbass up for the last week/ This moron thinks thatv because Floyd has long arms, it negates the long weight disadvantage. Dumbest thing Ive ever heard.
     
  15. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BS. Off top of my head his fight night weights for Corrales, Castilo, Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, Canelo, Maidana were displayed HBO.