how would luis ortiz do against these guys ?

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  1. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    1.povetkin
    2.parker
    3.wilder
    4.browne
    5.helinuis
    6.stiverne
    7.ustinov
    8.chisora
    9.haye
    10.takam

    ??? these guys only ?
     
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  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ortiz/Povetkin is the fight I want to see, and Fury/Wilder
     
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  3. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    do u think ortiz can beat all of the above ?
     
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  4. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I think I might pick Ortiz against all these guys except Wilder.

    Wilder only has trouble with guys that move around a lot, and I don't think Ortiz moves around enough to trouble Wilder.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont know, I didnt watch the fight against Thompson.
     
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  6. zeratul

    zeratul Active Member Full Member

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    I don't doubt Ortiz would knock out Browne, Helenius, Stiverne, Ustinov, Chisora and Takam, no doubts at all.

    I don't know enough about Parker yet to tell for sure. He's definitely too green at this point to take this kind of fight.

    Povetkin defeated him in amateurs, but know I see it as 50/50 fight - both are not very defensively responsible and both bring some power. Somebody is going down.

    Wilder is stylistically bad for Ortiz due to his reach and mobility. However, he is defensively flawed, so should he take the same kind of shots from Ortiz that he did from Szpilka and Molina, it will be over soon.

    Haye is the only one I would pick up to defeat Ortiz - solid defense and a kind of power that would make Ortiz respect him. Experience and durability. Haye would win it relatively easy.
     
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  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Wladimir, Povetkin, and Fury are the only ones that I wouldn't clearly state my prediction of an Ortiz victory.
     
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  8. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would favour Ortiz in a fight against Stiverne,Browne,Chisora,and Helenius.Takam and Ustinov as well as Wilder can beat him,but I wouldnt really bet any money on them.Could go really either way.If forced I would still bet my money on Ortiz.
    Ortiz is the underdog against Haye,Povetkin and Parker IMO.
    Especially Povetkin,at this point in time,seems to be too big a mountain to climb for Ortiz.
     
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  9. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    This.

    I think Ortiz destroys Wilder, styles.

    He also depose's of current Hayemaker
     
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    beats all of them.
     
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  11. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Ortiz vs Povetkin : 50/50
    2. Parker is still green. Next year : unpredictable
    3. Ortiz vs Wilder : 50/50
    4. Ortiz vs Browne : 80/20
    5. Helenius health status is questionable just now
    6. Ortiz vs Stiverne : 75/25
    7.Ortiz vs Ustinov : 75/25
    8. Ortiz vs Chisora : 98/02
    9. Ortiz vs Haye : 50/50
    10. Ortiz vs Takam : 65/35

    I would like to see : Ortiz vs Usyk, and Ortiz vs Huck........
     
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  12. Bulawayo

    Bulawayo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no way.

    Ortiz is much older than 36...just look at him...

    He didn't have anything in front on him last night and he still looked like an old man.
     
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  13. Bulawayo

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    :lol:
     
    Bulawayo, Mar 6, 2016
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