When Exactly WAS a prime Tyson?? Who would beat Tyson in 1989?

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  1. turnip

    turnip Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like the truth did until Mike chined him like he would chin Vlad.fight over.
     
  2. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Tysons prime was 86-89. Most heavyweights don't have a longer prime. The difference was, when Tyson started slipping and his defense and head movement took a hit he was a sitting duck for the tall jabbers. His style was taxing, depended on pitch perfect execution and delivery, and unreal athleticism. That's why Manny Steward predicted that Tyson wouldn't be successful past 25/26 before it even happened. His physical dimensions simply didn't allow for versatility, there was only one way he could fight the bigger guys and he couldn't maintain it for long.
     
  3. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    And I think Tyson-Bruno is a pretty good display of how Tyson-Wladimir would go. Bruno is the closest thing to Klitschko that Tyson fought and he had no trouble with that style.

    You just don't beat Tyson with a jab and odd right hand. You need to back him up, and to do that you need to press the action, which Waldo, like Bruno wouldn't do. Too much pressure. He'd try to maintain distance and give Tyson all the space he needs. His offensive limitations would be utterly exposed as Tyson easily slips past his 1-2s and crosses the real estate. You need an uppercut or real good timing on the right hand to nail Tyson coming in and Klitschko doesn't have either. Klitschko would clinch his way out in the first few rounds but eventually he gets cracked.

    Vitali has a much better chance.
     
  4. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ya can't go and make a thread about Azzers boyfriend without him jumping right in to defend him lmao
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Tyson stopped Bruno faster than anyone ever did in brunos career, apart from Tyson!

    you appear to be an idiot advancing an idiot argument - that Tyson in doing better than anyone else against Bruno, was (somehow in your warped world) a missed opportunity for Bruno in which he easily could have taken him down...

    basically arguing black is white, or trying iceskating uphill.
     
  6. ki_ote

    ki_ote Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson was his own worst enemy. He caused his own decline by ousting his people and replacing them with his ghetto brothers who dnsab and partied on the big money.
    Nobody is to blame but Mike, but hey, kids will be kids.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    he was prime, but in his prime, he was a loose cannon as the guy says.
     
  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    he became undisputed hw champion at 21, by beating the top titlists and contenders with relative ease.

    Next time someone does that fresh outta HIGH SCHOOL, you can tell them they haven't stepped up either. Oh, it wont happen again.
     
  9. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prime Tyson failed to stop Tillis and Green.
     
  10. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    So?
     
  11. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tillis was stopped several times, but Tyson couldn't get him out of there.
     
  12. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    And...?

    Every fighter ever failed to stop some mediocre opponent, especially early in their career. It happens.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    cut the guy some slack, Tyson a year out of high school against a full grown fully prime man, and he still won nearly every round against one of them and one sided the other.
     
  14. EnzoRD

    EnzoRD Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wrote

    Notice the lack of head movement that Tyson was known for. Yes, Tyson got him out of there. But it looks like a missed opportunity for Frank Bruno who rocked Tyson, and decided to hold rather than fight.

    I didn't say that Bruno could have easily taken him down. So how can I be advancing an argument when I didn't even write that? :patsch .... it is you that is advancing this argument.

    My point about a missed opportunity was because Bruno was scared of Tyson. Which is why I said 'he decided to hold rather than fight' which he did. Everyone was intimidated by Tyson. But the Tyson that Bruno got in the ring with, wasn't the same Tyson who had fought better the years before. The second fight was even worse for Bruno but that was another story.

    Even Tyson himself wrote in his autobiography "I was in no shape especially mental, to fight. Bruno should have kicked my ass. I was tired of fighting, I didn't have Cus's system in my head....I didn't train particulary hard for the fight.... I had no strategy to fight him."

    Sounds like a missed opportunity to me.

    It is YOU that appeas to be the idiot. :smooch
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    why are you still arguing that the strongest ever performance against Bruno is a weakness for tyson?

    what kind of fkwit are? stay down.