Rocky Marciano v Tyson Fury?

There is no question Rock is the better pound for pound fighter......but really? Marciano is not even a big cruiserweight, he should not beat Fury.

 

There is a LONG list of huge hwts getting beat up by smaller but greater fighters. Fury has had a handful of pro bouts, fights no better than an amateur and the one time he was hit solidly on the chin went down like a sack of potatoes.

 

Even if that was true, what's Carnera got to do with it ?:huh

Marciano never fought Carnera, different eras.

 

How did Marciano do against Carnera?

 

Did Chisora for that fight have Marciano's punching power? No way. Nor his heart or stamina either.

I'm still not quite sure what to make of this mouthy and mobile giraffe-like fighter. Fury can box some and moves much better than you'd think. I'll give him that.

If Rocky forced the action as always, he would need to be able to take a body shot. We know Fury's chin is suspect. And his defense to me is average. Steve Cunningham, a blown up cruiser not known for power shook him up. What happens when Rocky hits him? Yep.

In 15 rounds, I'll take Rocky. Fury might make him look bad for a few rounds.

 

An all time great cruiserweight versus the latest, but who knows how great, superheavyweight.

Fury has a lot of range to play with, both with his gossamer wingspan and nimble feet. Marciano is a great attrition puncher but does he get in range often enough to make it tell. It was pretty obvious that the Cunningham KD was the result of Fury getting caught clowning. I doubt he would do that against Marciano. And he took some heavy right hands from Klitschko.

In the end, Fury is very much an incomplete work. He most likely caught Wlad at end of his run. What his true ceiling is we have yet to discover.

 

I think Fury is a clown, period, and won't change. His ego is his enemy and has become worse. Much like Rahman's was when he KO'd Lewis for a 10 count.

The one single advantage a much shorter opponent has is the ability to land body shots if he's willing to throw them. Wlad was hit by body shots a few times but he takes them well. And he's such a dangerous puncher with skills and speed, that his opponents once they were hit flush tended to lose aggression...for good reason.

Fury doesn't hit nearly as hard, which means his opponents don't have to respect him and can take more chances.

Marciano is a very good body puncher, and not afford to throw them.
Something tells me Fury's somewhat fleshy body doesn't take a body shot quite as well as Wlad, and this is the key to the fight for Rocky.

Rocky also wasn't shy about throwing low shots, just above or below the belt line

 

You may be right that Fury could end up hurting his own chances by clowning around. Short of that though, I think that Marciano would have a very difficult time getting in position to land many well-leveraged body punches, given his short arms and lack of speed. Very hard for a little guy to beat a clever giant with a backfoot game, who moves forward and backward behind his jab.

 

Yeah, he clearly underestimated Cunningham's punching range and got sloppy. Also worth keeping in mind that Cunningham is 6'3 with an 82-inch, while Marciano was 5'10 with a 67-inch reach.

 

I watched the second Sharkey fight and I think you're overselling Primo's use of his physical attributes. Carnera did a good job blunting Sharkey's aggression by backing up a step or two whenever he tried to initiate his offense, but he was still outpunched from the outside, used no jab for much of the fight, and did all of his best work at close quarters. Sounded like the commentator had him behind for much of the fight. Tyson Fury would have jabbed and flurried Sharkey to death in a highly non-competitive fight.

 

Chisora did not have the power of Marciano, but the thing with power is, you have to be in a position to land it. And Marciano simply won't ever find himself in a position to land anything.
Do you believe Chisora lost the Fury fight because of lack of power? Even if he hit twice as hard as David Tua, it wouldn't have mattered. He would still have lost.

Secondly, Chisora has great endurance and stamina, its probably his most important attribute, however, as I said before, having lots of stamina wont do you much good when the guy you're fighting has 15' reach advantage and he's peppering you in the face with jabs all night.

If Wladmir Klitscko struggled with Furys size, what on earth makes you think Marciano is going to do any better?

Furys chin might be suspect, but just like Marciano, Fury has got up every time he's gone down.

15 rounds? Marciano wont be seeing the 15th round.

 

To clarify, would you pick Fury over Tua? Or how about Fury over Tyson? Both guys were Rocky's height or shorter.

Rocky fought out of a crouch and could get low. Fury's skills are not that good, and he lacked the power to keep guys off of him out of respect, except for the time when he fought Wlad.

Chisora did not have a crouching defense, nor did he have Rocky's skills up close.

I think you are severely underestimating the respect a fighter gives to another when he has power.

 

Exactly! Cummingham who can't hit rocked Fury! What would a puncher on Rocky's level do to him?

Chisora had already lost three times before facing Fury, and I think the Haye KO made him less aggressive in general.

Chisora was arm weary in the 10th round, and spit out his mouthpiece on his stool. Then his corner stopped it. It might have been a quit job by Chisora. Hard to say. You think Rocky would be tired in the 10th round?:deal

Power isn't pigeon holed into size. Louis when he won the title was a cruiser ( 197 ), was he not? And so was Dempsey, a fighter you claim to be a fan of.

 

I don't think Marciano is lasting the distance.. And even if he does, I'm not so sure that scheduling this for 15 will help him despite Fury never having gone that long. Marciano would be the one that would have to work is ass off for those 15 rounds while Fury just leans on him, functioning on cruise control, leading to ROCKY being the one who wears out first..