What other short men beat Primo Carnera?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Since the majority view seems to be that Langford obviously would have beaten Primo, are there any other short fighters (5'8 or below), who you also think could have pulled it off? :think
     
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  2. heerko koois

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    Tommy Burns maybe
     
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  3. janitor

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    Only the best could have done it!
     
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    And apparently the "best" short men all fought more than 100 years ago, leaving behind very little video footage. :think Either that or...
     
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  5. lepinthehood

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    all i know is fury would have schooled him.

    you relics probably wouldnt agree, thinking any fighter before 1950 were gods.
     
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  6. janitor

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    Fury would have schooled who, and why?
     
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  7. lepinthehood

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    primo carnera. because hes much faster, fluent and smarter. he'd tie him in knots. :smoke
     
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  8. LittleRed

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    I mean, Toney was 5'9" and I funk he could do it.
     
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  9. lepinthehood

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    dwight braxton could have done it.
     
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  10. LittleRed

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    I thought so too but he had a much less impressive heavyweight record than I remember. But I'd still favor him, oddly enough.
     
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  11. janitor

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    Basically yes.

    Fights with enormous size disparities don’t get sanctioned today, so smaller fighters don’t become really adept at beating bigger fighters.

    Men like Langford were a case of necessity being the mother of invention.
     
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  12. mrkoolkevin

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    I think it's more likely the case that our sport's hardcore fans have a culture of wildly romanticizing past greats (the less film evidence available, the better). That and the big men of the very early 20th century were far, far less talented than the top 200-lbers of later decades.
     
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    Even if that is the case, little men boxed from the same training manual as the big men, and the laws of physics were still the same.
     
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  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Perhaps, but the stock of athletic, coordinated fighters above 200-lbs exploded over the course of the 20th century. Another big difference is that boxing technique evolved in ways that better enable bigger, longer fighters to use their physical advantages more effectively. Impossible to overstate the difference that learning how to work off the jab makes.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    Langford was one of the most accomplished fighters ever to have lived - one of the three or four greatest fighters ever. That's worth baring in mind when asking this question. The answer could be "none" and it wouldn't really matter; you got loads of guys Langford's height but arguably none who are as great as Sam.
     
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