Brophy's cashing out vs Groves April 9th

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  1. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i know jordan pretty well and i think he would happily take on lewis ritson if he was given opportunity, jordan was doing very well against ronnie but was taken out with a beauty of a left hand. i was very surprised by the size of ronnie on the night he looked massive and looked as if he could easily fight at lightweight.

    was speaking to big mick at the scottish last week and he seemed to think that his son handled lewis in sparring saying there was nothing in it.
     
  2. blundell

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    I am sure I have read you claiming he would become a world champion to someone on the forum before. If I am wrong, then apologies.

    Can I ask has Brophy sparred with Degale before? I am very surprised that James is claiming he does not know who he is.
     
  3. Daviddee1983

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    Haha fun while it lasts.. Same comments as was said about Ally Black.. Your really funny at times will give you that. . Lewis wouldn't stop Jordan he would win on points. Lewis isn't the banger your trying to make him out to be. From what I've heard he's a tidy boxer who struggles with pressure.. Ronnie won't be fighting at lightweight and you know this but I'm sure if Lewis can get to 9 stone 4 lbs Ronnie will fight him.. Difference is mate Ronnie has proved he will fight anyone and hold his own.. None of your boys have been anywhere near these fighters.. Stop talking or step him up.. Molnar is 371 in the world on boxrec.. list 5 fights to lads not even domestic level also lost to Hylabd jnr.. It's just picking opponents and trying to make a big deal of it
     
  4. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    then I suggest you come and watch him next week if you think he struggles with pressure lol I really couldn't tell you because nobody in Scotland has had him under pressure, were are you hearing these things hilarious.lewis would break him down and stop him just like the Irish lad but quicker.
    Yes my fighters haven't or won't fight anyone, Hold on isn't Brophy fighting a three world title challenger, not a Celtic title? Big difference Davie big difference, oh Dave you please mate please.
     
  5. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Anyway Dave enjoy your Sunday and you know were I am if you need sparring anytime
     
  6. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    your not resulting to terrytibbs style call outs are you??:think
     
  7. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's see how he gets on then talking early. Cacacae didn't wear Ronnie down he got caught from a cracking punch going for the finish.. It's the ones you don't see. He wasn't badly hurt Cacacae jumped on him and foster jumped in the middle pushing Ronnie over... Fair stoppage but he wasn't badly hurt was up and ok within seconds.. Yet you think a guy who couldn't stop Puskins is gonna stop Ronnie.. Your a dreamer Billy boy.. Ally Black was the next big thing then you went quiet when he left now it's Ritson.. I want David to win but fact Is he will be knocked out within 6 rounds and badly... It's a total mismatch Webb had David hurt and hurt bad he's not even area level never mind World Class.. Remember you sad Bradley Saunders was the next big thing. . You said the same about Tyrone Nurse.. Does he beat Willie Limond??
     
  8. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Ally never turned up to the gym so I wasnt going to keep training him, waste of potential talent. cast your mind back to when you sparred Ally, you never came back?
    david not area class lol, well dave tell me who in Scotland is going to beat him? he took a shot to the temple and yes struggled but he recovered and finished the stronger in that round and dominated 8,9,and 10 and won the fight very clearly.
    Bradley Saunders is super talented, to say otherwise is silly he simply has been dogged by injuries.
    Excuse me isn't Tyrone the British champion? so I was right there
    Please come and see Ritson with your own expert eyes on Saturday dave I will even buy your ticket pal, don't let others judge for you, do it yourself.
    Tyrone v Willie is a hard fight to call, tyronne fast and younger, willie technically superior and more experienced
     
  9. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    So who's said Lewis struggles under pressure?
    Seriously ****ed myself reading that one ask anyone who's sparred him Dave his defence is great, brilliant jab and his body shot are sickening.
    When your out again come down and see first hand it's always the best way to make a judgement, listening to jealous coaches/people there judgement can be clouded lol
     
  10. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Again sparring stories.. I was down seeing Ronnie in with Appleby, Roberts jnr, Ricky and Tyrone. I was actually watching all these and what you seen is a total fabrication it also contradicts what you said you your fighters at the time. As for Ally Black I wasn't there he was at his first spar Ally had been in the gym for weeks.. He felt comfortable and from what I've been told finished the stronger but in honesty it is irrelevant. I've seen Ronnie spar a top fighter first day he couldn't hit air then other sessions he is on it and punching them all over the ring that's what sparring is. If I have nothing on Saturday I'll come down Ronnie is going anyway. I don't have an opinion on Ritson just his opponents are poor.

    As for David yes he beats everyone in Scotland probably. In saying that the British Scene is so strong. I wouldn't have him in the top ten and in my eyes this is too much of a step up. Can see why people think it's about money because I've seen nothing that jusifies him being in the ring with Groves. Bradley is another Alex Arthur great front foot fighter. I call it the bullying style. Problem is they fall down against guys who give it back. Good fighters yes.. Great no..

    I knew you wouldn't answer about Limond v Nurse.. Tyrone is very fit has good work rate just never seen in your gym what you seen. Tough guy and Willie has his work cut out
     
  11. Jamie2011

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    Billy sparring is sparring, Ronnie sparred with ally once and ally done quite well, does that mean he beats him? No. Both were at different stages of training camp. Your problem is you have no professionalism and what goes on in your gym should stay there, Cacace would stop ally black very quickly and you don't even realise it but you disrespect people who you have no involvement with, truth is Ronnie had a thought fight with Cacace and styles make fights, he came up short, but end of the day physically you could not handle what any of these boxers do and just because you hold the mits gives you no place to insult them. An opinion is an opinion but there is a way to express it. Ronnie v Jordan was a good fight, would I judge Ronnie on that? No because truth is he was shocking, done the weight wrong, put on the weight wrong, wrong game plan and just overall under performed and made it hard for himself, he rocked Jordan in round 1 and stepped off. The time for you to bang the drum is when Lewis gets the fights though, at the moment there is not as there is no foundation to your argument, even if we did come on Saturday it's against limited opposition at a show where it's gonna be a home fighter cake walk in truth. Billy Ronnie has had more 50/50 fights than your whole gym have had since Ricky left. Only Brophy v Webb is a real fight. That's not an insult Billy either as I actually do respect you as a trainer , you done wonders with Ricky and I was shocked with the improvement in Brophy against Webb and trust me I am hoping he can do the business against groves. Ritson there is plenty of lightweights out there and I don't believe for a minute there all ducking him.
     
  12. Silent_Service

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    Billy, it's my impression that the Blackledge fight was close to being made prior to the confirmation of Groves?
    My question here is, say Brophy upsets the AppleCart & goes and puts in a very good performance but loses... What do you think your chances of getting in with Blackledge are then? I'd say limited tbh as that will then deem Brophy very high risk.

    As for the rest of the SMW div now, it's wide open on the domestic scene - I'd say Fielding , smith , Murray groves an Degale are all world level fights now,
    Leaving blackledge as the pick of the bunch remaining (cox will get banned no doubt in light of his conviction) then brophy , markham , smyle & Cameron - so surely you have to keep an open eye for a vacant British shot against these lads...
     
  13. billy nelson

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    mobody has said he's sparred James coz he hasnt
     
  14. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    thankfully the rankings aren't done through your eyes otherwise we'd have Ronnie the super champ at anything between 9st and 10st👍👊😀
     
  15. Silent_Service

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    What's your thoughts on the post I put regarding Luke Blackledge & brophy just three then mate?