Why is Willie Pepp's win over Sandy Sadler more talked about than the 3 times Sandler

Senya, your on shaky grounds comparing the powerful rough and tough lightweight Sammy Angott to the featherweight sandy saddler...Saddler not ONCE ever challenged seriously an Ike Williams, a Bob Montgomery, a Sammy Angott, all great lightweights of those days
{all who I saw ringside}. I repeat NOT once did Saddler ever take on these tough strong heavier men...At least Pep took on Sammy {Clutch]
Angott and gave Angott all he could handle losing a controversial decision to one of the strongest toughest rough and tumble lightweights of modern times, Sammy Angott who fought the murderous punching best lightweight I ever saw Ike Williams to a standstill several times...
Sandy Saddler could have challenged Williams or Angott or Montgomery to a title or contender bout but wisely never did...These 3 lightweights would have been too strong for Saddler, but at least the
immortal [yes I said immortal] Willie Pep [pre accident] took on Angott...Give Willie Pep his due, when at his best which I saw him several times ringside he was a marvel to behold...Saddler who I saw a few times was like a praying mantis tall and lean, but easy to hit. This is why I have chosen a modern fighter Alexis Arguello to beat Saddler H2H in a fantasy fight...Willie Pep for the ages. Yessir...

 

So why the hell take it out on Willie Pep or other pardon the expression "white fighters" who were not involved and were just trying to eke out a living in much harsher and more competitive times than todays fighters who fight twice a year...I know, as I was around those days...What fighters received "more attention" than a Joe Louis, Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Ike Williams, Kid Gavian ,all black great fighters of those days that I and multitudes of other boxing fans of those times idolized ???? Give it a rest I say...

 

Why is Barrera more talked about than the guy who beat him twice, Junior Jones? Why is Tommy Hearns more talked about than Iran Barkley, who beat him twice? They're just bigger more legendary names.

In any case, I'm not sure Pep's win gets any more attention than Saddler's three wins. They're usually bundled together as a series.

Saddler did knock out three lightweight champs in Lauro Salas, Joe Brown and Paddy DeMarco.

 

Saddler reigned as featherweight champion for 7 years though, held the title twice, and also was super-featherweight champion. His record compares to Pep's.

Having said that, I think Barkley is underrated and ranks ahead of Hearns at 160 and 175 anyway.

 

all good points.Saddlers wins over Salas and Brown are impressive.
Another pairing to add to Hearns/Barkley is Tunney/Dempsey.......Dempsey is a heavyweight legend but lost both his fights against Tunney ??

 

Tunney was the greatest boxer to ever hold the hwt title. An ATG. That was an old Dempsey BTW. Ali lost to a bum like Berbick in his last bout as well. Nobody should hold that against him either.

 

Tunney was no more the greatest hwt to hold the title than Berbick was.

 

This is partly true. Angott let Pep take the lead the first 5 rounds and out boxed Pep in those rounds. But Pep lost the last two rounds, being badly hurt in the 9th by a body attack, and lost the 10th. Pep only won the 4th,7th and 8th clearly according to the United Press report.
Pep himself stated that Angott's awkward balance threw him off, and that Angott's lateral movement was unexpectedly effective in cutting off the ring.

 

From March 1943 to June 1952, a span of more than 100 fights, ONLY Sandy Sadler beat Willie Pep, winning, of course, three out of four.

Good enough for me.

 

Brooklyn Eagle:
Every time the puzzled Pep started one of his windmill rallies, Angott would either stab him with a blistering counterattack or tie him up. Sammy was rendering Pep helpless like a man tying up a package, late in the bout. Result was Willie lost all his style, all his customary verve. He seemed at a loss.
Early in the bout Sammy hit cleanly, beat Willie to the punch repeatedly and seemed willing to make a fight of it at every turn. After the sixth round, when Angott suffered a cut eye, he seemed to tire and go into his shell. He began the mauling, shoving, holding tactics which have made him a target for many boos in the Garden ring. When Sammy degenerated to this type of boxing, Pep could cope with him a little better, but still not well enough to turn the tide.

NY Times:
In the last five sessions the former lightweight king held at every opportunity, taking time to fire sporadic punches merely to let Willie know that he could be hit.
Angott boxed carefully at the start and forced Pep to come to him, landing sharp lefts to the head as Willie approached. Willie was willing, but his fire was inaccurate, and he rarely reached the "coach" with an effective punch.
Pep's youth asserted itself in the sixth when he managed to force his way into close quarters and outpunched Angott, who did considerable holding. In the next two rounds the featherweight king continued along the same lines, reducing Angott's margin by landing lefts from all angles.
Angott recovered control in the ninth and tenth, however. He mauled and wrestled Pep around the ring and manoeuvred the featherweight king into range for enough punches to enable him to maintain his lead.

 

When you fight as often as Pep did you end up eventually losing to another excellent fighter who may be having a great night while you are not. Losing to Angott is meaningless if you are trying to discredit him because of it.

 

The only thing I disputed was using the plane crash as an excuse for any bad performance for Pep afterward. He wasn't invincible prior to the crash, he wasn't invincible after the crash either.

 

You conveniently forgot to mention the bullish Sammy Angott was about SEVEN pounds heavier than Willie Pep was in this bout. You name me any 126 pound featherweight other than possibly Henry Armstrong that would beat the much heavier Angott who held his own with the likes of a Ray Robinson and Fritzie Zivic...
When Senya was Pep beaten again until way past his peak and when
was it necessary to make excuses for his "losses" other than his losses to Saddler? Name those other losses that required "excuses"...Answer NONE.

 

Pep was about as great as it gets.
But I think Saddler was just as great.

 

WHAT losses other than to Saddler did Willie Pep have when he was still
a good fighter ? To whom did he lose to ???. Why do you have to degrade the great Willie Pep, to what avail ???