Vitali Klitschko 2009 v.s Moorer 1994

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You're a liar and liars always get found out.

    Unless you can prove that Wlad had to pay 'big bucks' to get Byrd into the ring?

    Because in reality Universum had Byrd under lock and key and he wasn't allowed move sideways unless they said so.
    He had to sit on the couch and wait for Wlad while Wlad fought two tune-ups in preparation.

    Byrd was under contract beyond his control. Exactly the same as they have Fury right now.

    Vitali searched for an opponent right after the Byrd loss and found one in Hoffman. The time gap between Byrd and Hoffman was just 7 months so how the hell was it a comeback fight?:patsch:nut

    The guy wanted nothing at all to do with Chris Byrd ever again.

    Reality based an.alysis , with all factual data entered into a probability matrix states he loses to Byrd again and Michael Moorer 9 times outta 10.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Look at it this way-

    They both faced clones of each other , albeit lesser versions.

    Moorer blew away his lesser Vitali in White.

    Vitali lost to his lesser Moorer in Byrd.

    Do the math.
     
  3. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nah I'll continue to post bud. And you're not even worth arguing with. And you don't seem to understand how being a normal human being works. I'd refrain from coming here until you seek help.

    LOL@ you lurking around these forums looking for anything positive to be said about the Klitschkos so you can jump out from underneath your bridge and ATTEMPT to make them look bad. Lol SMH
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wow. You had no comeback whatsoever. Absolutely nothing.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    ah so its the western press fault. that's gotta be added to shaunsters list of klitscko excuses.



    hes not a sports doctor AT ALL. he has "sports studies" qualifications. u write one lie after another.


    says you, another fib.


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    tennis players don't try to inflict injury on each other.

    its not.

    do u need reminding that its you who raised the issue by highlighting the same injury in the chisora fight?
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Mike white wasn't even in the same universe as vitali in quality and had virtually nothing in common with him except for being big.. Byrd had nothing in common with moorer either and his win over vitali was due to an old injury resurfacing that had nothing to do with anything Chris did to him... Vitali was beating Byrd with only one good arm for most of that fight before the pain became too debilitating to continue.. These comparisons of yours mean nothing.. Moorer had a very poor chin and only average power above 200 lbs.. He never fully got into shape at that weight and often boxed unwisely as seen against foreman, cooper, tua, etc.. Hell had evander not been in such bad shape health wise in their first fight, Francois Botha might well have been moorer's best career win..
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I don't need to read any more. Are you claiming Byrd didn't land a punch on Vitali?

    Injury excuses are for losers. You can write off every loss in history with some form of excuse. Deal with the fact he lost to Byrd like a man.
     
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    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You wrote the book on losers.
     
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    :deal
     
  10. BCS8

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    ... and Dino is back in his finest trolling form :lol: Kudos to you for dumping his garbage post back in the landfill though. ;)
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To come back to the thread.

    Moorer was very accurate , technically skilled and had decent punching power. He did not waste much. Moorer did not have a chin but Vitali was not a big puncher either.

    Vitali on the other hand had obvious flaws defensively and technically which would be exposed by Moorer.

    Yes, Vitali would be busier. But I feel Moorer would block most of these punches with his tight guard and land the cleaner shots in route to a UD (by 2-4 points) in my opinion.
     
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    ^ I think the Blade is wrong ... but he wrote a good post detailing his reasons. Thanks, that was not a waste of my time :)
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    He lost the fight legitimately.. But it wasn't the TYPE of fight that can really be used in a head to head fantasy match with another opponent ( not to mention one with no common traits ) unless you're willing to bank on the exact same fluke injury occurring twice.. It would be different if Vitali was totally healthy with no problems, then went out and got totally schooled and out boxed and later was matched with another fighter of the very same or similar style and physical attributes.. THEN we might be able to say " Okay well the other guy has a shot. " But how does suffering a once in a career shoulder injury in a fight where he was otherwise kicking the crud out of an opponent who had nothing in common with Moorer, help Moorer? Especially if he's matched with a healthy Klitscko? Fact is, it doesn't.. And Moorer isn't going to use the ring, head movement and make Vitali miss either.. Watch his fights with Holyfield, Cooper, Foreman, Smith, Stewart, etc... The man was there to be hit.
     
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    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Magoo, why do you bother with these two? They're on a mission.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know..