Browne tested positive for Clenbuterol; result versus Chagaev potentially overturned?

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  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Get a ****ing grip dude.
     
  2. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I pictured Crocodile Dundee typing this.
     
  3. sasuke

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    if id a region on my borders full of islamic extremist id like to have a son like ramzan keeping them down:good
     
  4. Komaster

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    My comment was taken out of context - was replying to a guy who said Browne would rather keep the charade going on a grand scale rather than admit the mistake/doping. 'Where I come from' was just rhetoric on my part, not saying Im living in a social utopia or anything. But hey, stranger things have happend sure just can't see a guy with Browne's seemingly virtuous personality taking everyone for a ride. You could say Armstrong for example was a bit ' off' as a person anyway. If Browne is dodgy then hes a damn good actor.
     
  5. Saintpat

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    One doesn't have to be dodgy, just trusting of the wrong people:

    Strength trainer hands gives you something and says, "Take this, it's legal and it will help." Guy takes it. Turns out it wasn't legal and he's the one who takes the fall.

    I think it's happened to a lot of athletes. Most of them are purposely ignorant -- they don't want to know, but they do want to do whatever they can to get an edge, so they don't ask questions or default to "Well, I was told there was nothing wrong with this."

    If the B test is positive, it was in his body and it's a banned substance. End of.
     
  6. Komaster

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    When does one give the voluntary sample? Straight after the fight? If the team gave it to Browne maybe they thought theyd be able to skip the voluntary...
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He is an Islamic extremist himself, is he not?
     
  8. thesmokingm

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    What the hell, did you just crawl out from under a rock?

    All cheaters deny everything until they are caught. What you never heard of Floyd Landis? He was stripped of his Tour de France win before he even got to Paris. He denied everything. He even went as far as writing a ****ing book about his innocence lmao. He took donations from his groupies, er the people that believed his story. He even tried to hack into the French laboratory to try to erase the proof.

    Yea, this is a guy who claimed innocence... till he was offered a deal to turn on guess who? Lance ****ing Armstrong, who also claimed he was innocent. You never heard of his ****ing Livestrong foundation of cancer victims?

    What rock did you climb out from under????
     
  9. sasuke

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    Nah his Islamic but cracks down very hard on the extremists. Watch the video CST posted . his guys conducted the random beatings and abductions with guys they suspect are following the wahibism sect of Islam that us known to be the breeding ground of extremism. He is the guy want want flogging terrorists.
     
  10. alakran

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    Im sure theres a benefit for him, sh*t thats what trainers are getting popped for in horse racing so there must be a benefit
     
  11. thesmokingm

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    Yep.

    Clen is for improving power to weight ratio. In sports where you can measure the gains like in cycling with power meters that measure wattage output, it is ****ing huge. But just because it's not easily measured in boxing doesn't mean like CST80 is hoping/dreaming (in lala land) that it doesn't matter.
     
  12. sasuke

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    in fact isis have a 5 million bounty on ramzans head and he has said that chechan troops should be unleashed on isis as they know how to deal with islamic extremists:lol: his exact words were that id putin sent his 'death battalion' to syria isis would be wiped out in a matter of weeks:lol::lol:

    the islamic extremists hate him because he slaughters them by the thousands and the chechans troops he commands are known as one of the toughest armies in the world and are born to fight. We as westerners look upon some of his actions with distain but we dont have to live and survive in a complete mess of a place like where he lives, where democracy cant survive and needs strong leadership. sure some of the ways he spends money is a joke but he is kicking the **** out of terrorists for fun
     
  13. Komaster

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    We're talking about Browne specifically not just 'do people lie about things'. A bit of complexity to your thinking wouldnt hurt.
     
  14. thesmokingm

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    You think he wouldn't lie to his friends...? Examples of ppl who lied to not only their friends and family, but to the world, writing books on it, collecting donations, and you comeback with more bs?
     
  15. Komaster

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    No I dont think HE would lie to his friends and family. Its purely based on a character assesment. Have other people lied about doping. Yes. B doesnt cancel out A. Based on what Ive seen of how Browne seems to carry himself, it would surprise me. Do I really care, well no. Wouldnt mind seeing him get paid, but thatll be out of the question I gather.