Finally Wilder fighting live body

But is it true, spider pig whooped the ass of the baconmaker?:think

 

You re right,mate!
People here tend to forget that he beat exttemly capable and underrated fighters like Matthew Greer (in his 27th pro fight) or Jesse Oltmans(in his 22nd pro fight) and a potential all time great like Daniel Cota(in his 19th pro fight)

 

I'd rate stiverene's offensive execution on par if not better then Povetkin minus the energy of the Russian either way Stiverene's possessed the power to truly test DW and DW passed. The win showed me some poise and added wrinkles to Wilders game.

 

Not to get off subject but I always find it amusing how many Dan Rafeals exist in this site the overally critical boxing ****yst that would likely get crushed by the person they are scruntinzing. Nothing personal just an intresting observation that happens every other post but is never revealed for what it truly is.

 

HA They are **** :rofl:rofl

 

Judging is one thing, it's what they sign up for when they turn pro; however, the level of audacity and lack of constructive criticism makes some folks sounds like insecure inadequate children. I'm sure there are days at your profession where you didn't perform up to your own potential and standard should that be a representation of you and your career do you want your superiors labeling you based on your missteps or your contributions?

 

Understood, I might require more substance when scruntinzing only because I've been in that ring I know what it's like and most cases you don't turn pro without some exterior support someone who believes in you meaning you showed ability....I guess what I'm saying is it's strange to take pride in being a troll vs providing viable impactful critics

 

1st elite REAL top heavy he's faced. Stiverne was only champ because Vitali vacated his titles and the WBC made a really weak tournament which allowed him to snatch up a belt without much effort.

From best to worst i'd rank Wilders wins in this order. Szpilka, Scott(questionable fight but on paper it's a solid win), Stiverne, Duhaupas, and then Molina. The rest of his wins are trash, and none of these guys are top 10 heavyweights. Only 2-3 are real contenders the rest are fringe at best.

 

Good post can't argue the fact that his resume isn't the most flattering at this stage and the fact that he owns a belt should require him to leave the inadequate opposition alone.

 

Lol! No one is crying hahaha just making intriguing conversation that's part of the reason we go on here is it not?

If your dislike isn't pre-determined then I put forth my most sincere apologies.

 

Lol black lives matter? Really your going there.....I'm not the affirmative action type but I have sceen and experienced the injustice that goes on that gets misinterpreted as a false sense of lamination and misplaced grief. I'd rather not dive into something that contains levels you might not be privy to. All in all every life matters and our false sense of enthnocentricism has pushed us to the brink of complete self destruction.

Anywho the pre determined judgement was more based on Wilders lack of traditional boxing foundation and rawness....his inconsistent performances and supposed vulnerabilities.

 

This is neither the time or place to discuss the wider implications of generational issue that effects the very foundation of this country. I'm extremely comfortable with opening up Pandora's box and you calling me biased on this issue based on what my ethnosocio group and experience is wayyyyy off base. On the contrary I look at color lines as a socital downfall but one that we cannot avoid based on our human tendencies to fear what we don't know and over value what we do know. Did you really use the word colored? I suppose you are of a pure breed lol funny man.

Again you definition of pre-determined is based on a specific timeline that you created for Wilder I on the other hand see him as still evolving with great potential for improvement based on some of his natural talents. My evidence builds a case for the glass as half full while you seem to lean towards the glass never being capable of holding any content in the first place. Shocking lol

 

If Wilder beats Povetkin he will test positiv in a drug test. Happens to everybody WHO beats russians in Russia...

 

i think its a 65 / 35 fight in wilders favour if he boxes to a gameplan v povetkin

but with the sole exception of stiverne and possibly malik scott wilder has been a 20 to 1 plus on favourite v all his other opposition so povetkin is a huge steop up from what he has been fighting.

 

You obviously used colored a word with a negative history to spark a reaction and I took the bait fair play, there is no taking the word out of context so nice try. Funny thing is I find your attempts comedic so much appreciated for the laugh.

Back to boxing and your limited thoughts surrounding the flexibility and ambiguity regarding the definition of predetermined. Clearly your thickness won't allow you the opportunity to absorb what I'm trying to deliver.....even now Wider has not reached self actualization in the boxing game meaning currently all thoughts pertaining to his flaws can be changed we don't know the finished product. If you still don't get it God help you and those who entrust in you.