Andre Ward's problem: Sergey Kovalev is big and good

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  1. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well know if Ward is still as good as he was. Barrera isn't world class but he is enough to make Ward work. He throws punches unlike Paul Smith and doesn't have a blubber tire around his waist. Well see how good Ward is still.
     
  2. Farmboxer

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    Barrera can't fight at all and Ward still had to have that fight in his home town with his referee, judges, boxing commission, etc., when Ward fights Kovalov (if he does) he will have his personal referee to get between he and Kovalev, the ref will take points away from Kovalev if he hits Ward, those are Ward's rules, and then there are Ward's judges, etc.
     
  3. Beatle

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    At first glance, Kovalev looks like another one-dimensional slugger who punches in straight lines. But upon closer inspection, you realize he actually has a brain, and can time boxers like Hopkins and Sillakh, dominating them.

    Ward is already backing down from Kovalev. Just listen to his latest interviews, in which he says that he'll need another (third!) fight at LHW before he's ready for Kovalev. Of course, Ward is just hoping Kovalev loses to someone else in the meantime, and if that doesn't happen then Ward will have to find another excuse to duck him.
     
  4. boxing_master

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    Kovalev would knock the ignorant ward out this is a FACT!
     
  5. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    The size discrepancy is overstated, Ward competed at light-heavyweight in the amateurs.
     
  6. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can leave two fights out of that list. Catch weights doesn't count, DLH wasn't even bigger on fight night and Canelo was a walking zombie.
     
  7. madpuppy

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    Don't you get bored of posting the same sh!t for years?
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    So you think the size difference between Kovalev and Ward is a minimal?

    I'm picking Kovalev because he's just as good and he's bigger.
     
  9. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, it's on youtube. Ward is not as big in the body or arms but Ward actually looks taller by a half an inch or so.
     
  10. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Canelo was a walking zombie? This is a bit revisionist. I remember him just getting outboxed and missing all over the place. Didn't look sluggish at all. Out of his depth, yes.
     
  11. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Kovalev is enormous. He looked twice the size of Hopkins. Ward is obviously the smaller guy. When Ward fought at 178 at the Olympics he walked around at 170 .
     
  12. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Drainelo was certainly not at his peak. He looked lethargic and unexplosive. At the weigh in he was so drained he had to sit down and was too weak to even hold a belt, some say he was clinically dead for 15 minutes and went to catch weight heaven.
     
  13. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He looked exactly like he always does except he couldn't land a punch. Didn't look lethargic at all. Not even a little. He just couldn't find the target.
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd Canelo is irrelevant to this thread. It's about what happens when two ATG caliber fights get in the ring and there is a size disparity.

    Canelo isn't on that level. His stamina is very poor. His power is mediocre.
     
  15. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's your thread. But really if you reject Hagler Leonard as meeting the standard then the criteria don't seem all that clear.