Is the Kell Brook 'Big Fights' criticism fair?

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  1. kobashi

    kobashi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If brook can manage to get a big fight in the summer then we could see him in another before the end of 2016.

    The reason they are mentioning summer is because they will try to get a big fight at brammel lane.

    Obviously this goes out the window if it isn't Bradley as I don't believe anyone else would travel.

    And yeah Eddie Hearn has to put the money on the table.
     
  2. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't disagree with this assessment. He needs a big name fight, and needs to follow through with it. 3 rubbish fights Kell - if you want the fanbase then show us you are willing to prove how good you are and we will support you.
     
  3. Heavyhanded

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    He was never dominant in the fight, the fight was close with rounds too close to call if my memory serves me right.

    But it doesn't matter now, the fact remains Brook is hardly mentioned in the States, in a division stacked with talented ww - if Hearn/brook want any respect, they need to give the f--King fans something to get excited about and a fighter to be proud of.

    I live in Sheffield been to many of Kell's fights, paid my money and to be quite honest, it's becoming tiresome listening to the same old spiel - if he really wants to be taken seriously, he needs to be over in the States putting himself about, like degale/Khan has, calling out top fighters on local news is not going to improve his profile in the States.
     
  4. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Kell is pursuing the WBC belt, funny seeing how he will have a dangerous mandatory! :roll::roll:

    Wouldn't be surprised if they dumped the belt citing that they are no better off with it now that they have to face Spence.
     
  5. Peterp

    Peterp Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I do believe Kell wants to fight a big name, it's the only way to get the big bucks

    His only leverage is the title, which is why it was smart to fight the mandatory however mismatched the opponent was

    All fighters and their managers have one objective. Get as much money as possible with as little risk as possible
     
  6. Bent-nose

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    Your just contradicting yourself. Earlier you said that he should give his belt up. Now you say he'll just box his mandatory. Then someone tells you that Spence could be his next mandatory and you're then saying he won't box his mandatory and give up his belt.

    Now you're saying he shouldn't box in the summer but then you'll criticise him for not boxing.

    Floyd Mayweather claims everyone is ducking Brook. If Bradley is unavailable, who should he box?
     
  7. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spence would be a good fight. The mandatory challenger gets the short end of the purse so Brook would be very happy with that, but would Haymon?
     
  8. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Garcia knocked out Khan and would be a big fight. Vargas is a belt-holder. Would a unification fight not be good enough for you?
    Khan's best win at welter is Devon Alexander - Brook would get slated for boxing him.
    Assuming Bradley is unavailable, who should Brook fight in July?
     
  9. Pro Punter

    Pro Punter Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The thread question - yes the criticism is fair.

    Pay per Poo fighter my arris
     
  10. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No. IMO, he should give it up as it's been no good for him, but he is content with fighting mandatories. That can't be denied! Jesus, wasn't Saturday just gone PPV? The Gavin fight was.

    Again, No. Why does he HAVE to fight in the summer? If all the big names are taken, and Kell keeps banging on about them, why not wait till after summer when they are free?

    Are you blind? Go for Thurman. And make him an offer he cannot refuse.
     
  11. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Garcia is pants. He's struggling with nobodies, and avoids the big names. Nobody takes Danny seriously anymore. Forget him

    Vargas is a paper champ, IMO. Another nobody.

    Devon would be a HUGE name compared to who Kell has fought over the past year, you can't deny that?!

    He should make Thurman an offer, a massive offer. Why should we assume Bradley is unavailable? He might KO Manny and be back within no time.
     
  12. BEATDOWNZ

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    Was Saturday just gone PPV?
     
  13. Bent-nose

    Bent-nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thurman just pulled out of a fight with Porter and it's rescheduled for June 25. Tough fight which Thurman could lose.
     
  14. madpuppy

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    So would Garcia and Vargas. Those would be good fights at this stage for Brook and highly realistic, you are taking your criticism too far
     
  15. Bent-nose

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    Garcia is an unbeaten ex-champ who sparked out Khan.

    Vargas is a current champion.

    Alexander hasn't won a fight in 2 years and lost to Aaron Martinez last time out. Since then Martinez lost to Sammy Vasquez.

    Garcia, Vargas and Vasquez are all rated much higher than Alexander.

    Let's hope that Arum lets Bradley face Brook.