Joe Louis vs. Wladimir Klitschko.

Vs Who? A shot Carrera who wasn't well regarded inhis time with allegations of fixed fights? Vs. A very limited Abe Simon, who Louis took many rounds to finish.

Oh sure Dago, compare those two to Wlad!

 

I see Louis gives him a lightning fast 5-6 Punch combination to his head ,

and the Fight is over. Louis KO easy.

 

Max Baer and Buddy Baer weren't tomato cans by any standards. Btw its Carnera. The point is Louis never faltered against big men. He always won by knockout. Every. Single. One.

Wlad is inactive and relies on getting in close enough to clinch so he can lean on his opponents. Not gonna work against Louis. Any fighter that gets close to Louis in his prime gets stopped.

 

1. Yes, Schmeling was regarded as past his prime but Louis also neglected training big time for that fight. Louis got a beating and learned from it. That fight made him even more dangerous.

2. Quit playing dumb. We all know Walcott was a far better fighter in his later years than in his younger.

3. Let me rephrase what I mean't as I didn't express it right...Louis wanted to be under 200 lbs so it wouldn't seem like he was using extreme weight advantage. This took a lot out of Louis even though it was only 5 lbs. Even though he was shook a bit by Conn, his chin is not to be negated. He was dehydrated and weak in that fight, very far from his best.

Klitschko's hands are too open and his defense isn't tight enough. More than enough room to step in and put a punch through there.

 

222 idiots on this board.

 

Idiots are people who believe that an athlete who was in his prime when Hitler was still alive can beat modern elite athletes. Joe Louis would lose to any top 10 HW today.

 

Klitschko is an elite modern super-heavyweight. Louis was a cruiserweight-like heavy.

Wladimir knocks him out in a mismatch.

 

This is the argument of a true moron who knows nothing about boxing.

What does a combat sport like boxing have to do with sprinting. Why are they comparable?

 

So by your logic Jet Li>>>>> Bruce Lee?

 

So the same sized David Haye puts up a better effort?

 

The only HW in 2000s + era who has a chance against oldtimers
like Louis , up to Foreman , Tyson

is Luis Ortiz , nobody else.

 

Because combat sports rely heavily on strength and conditioning just like any other sport that has such high intensity and is so physically demanding. By your logic people who do these exercises are just wasting their time and should just shadowbox or something. You can have great technique and fight IQ but if you go against someone who trains more, is stronger, has better cardio and is more athletic as well as a good boxer it's more than likely that you're going to lose.

Also, when you have better nutrition you can train more and develop better technique too.

By the logic of morons like you boxers who take steroids shouldn't have any advantage over other fighters. Having access to modern (legal) nutrition and supplements is like being on steroids compared to someone who trained at a time when Hitler was alive and when people thought smoking is good for your health. Back in those days people had no clue how to live healthy as an athlete. Not to mention than a lot of modern boxers are also juiced to the gills.

Football is a less intense sport than boxing yet the best modern teams would win easily against the best teams from the 70s because those wouldn't be able to keep up with the pace of the modern game.

FFS watch Joe Louis fight, they fought at a snail's pace at those times. He would gas in 3 rounds against elite modern boxers.

 

LOL just LOL

Forget HWs, Joe Louis would have serious trouble with LHWs like Gvozdyk.

70 years of progress in sports science and humanity in general is a huge gap.

Just look at the physique of Joe Louis, by modern standards he looks like someone who boxes 3 times a week. That's because at that time people had no clue how to properly condition athletes. He was good against people of his age who were victims of the same ignorance, but he wouldn't be able to deal with elite A level athletes of 21st century.

 

Boxing relies on skill first and foremost. A fat and out of shape Chris Arroela will destroy the fittest and best conditioned MMA fighter in a boxing ring 10x outta 10.

Give me an example of this?

Nutrition doesn't develop technique.

Name these guys who had stamina and conditioning problems?

That has absolutely nothing to do with the sport of boxing.

12 rounds is a struggle for most fighters today. They were going 35 rounds before Joe Louis came around. Explain that.

Are you some sort of a troll?

Louis was know for being a fierce combination puncher. He was a come forward wrecking machine with a better work rate than most guys today.. against Baer , Carnera , Galento and most others in his prime.

The top HW of the last 10 years had to keep a very strict tap on his out put for fear of gassing out. So strict he was reduced to throwing only single shots a time. And clinch every min to conserve his energy.

Explain that?

 

Of course a fighter who is better conditioned will be better than another fighter who has better ring IQ and technique. Marciano proved that...oh wait you consider him an idiot.

Fighters like Ali and Marciano trained like crazy but didn't have good nutrition as YOU say.

With all that juice then why do fighters today barely make it to round 12?

The only people that thought smoking was good for your health in Louis's era were idiots. Even Dempsey knew that smoking and drinking were bad for health. I recommend you read Dempsey's book "Championship Fighting" it will make you realize that they weren't that far behind if at all.