Alexander Povetkin vs. Deontay Wilder-Wilder Is Underrated And Povetkin Is Overrated.

I had some minor lingering doubts about both of those fights, but you have to temper that kind of thing and only jump on it from time to time. The fact that they both ended in KO is surprising, there's no way either guy would have gotten a decision had they gone the distance.

 

Why do Wilder nutsackcleaners think tonight's results were such shocks? Helenius has shown nothing since Derek Chisora and Adamek was begging for somebody to retire him. Wilder remains on Russian death row.:deal

 

It only boosts his resume slightly... Unless Adamek, and Helenius go on to do anything significant again which obviously isn't going to happen. Both are done.

 

Definitely.

 

I'm right here.

And on the contrary, I am still challenging all of the Wilder ****s to a lifetime ban bet on the Povetkin fight(not inculding you--you're all right in my book).

I thought Staminakills was at least man enough to take it, but he hasnot answered me since about the time this thread was made, so I guess it is off.

They are mostly a bunch of **** talking cowards running at the mouth. As for the day, a couple of Wilder cripples found a couple of bigger cripples.

That is sad, because Adamek is a warrior and Helenius had promise, but a 40 year old LHW and a guy who has suffered a series of career threating injuries are not good guages at all. Everyone knew both these guys were shot going in.

Peace.

 

i have changed my mind ..because of povetkin being at age 37 i think hes on the decline and wilders gonna knock him out ...

 

Both are absolutely the case. I am shocked at how one-sided people regard this match up. Wilder's resume is clearly not quite as terrible as people make it out to be in the light of recent successes of his former victims. On top of that he beat Stiverne and Szpilka which are not bad wins.
I mean, think about it. When is the last time you have seen a HW blowout not involving Wlad beating some cab driver? Wlad vs Haye was supposed to be a short affair - turns out two world class boxers prepared themselves enough to not run into each other's right hands like in a Rocky movie. Countless other fights at HW in the past 5-6 years that just weren't as spectacular or one-sided as we were lead to believe prior to the fights. Top 5 HWs are good boxers and you don't get there by accident. Wilder will study Povetkin's game and vice versa. They will both be prepared.

Surely, Povetkin can win. I am not sure who I favour. I think it's 60:40 in favour of Wilder perhaps if Povetkin has to pass stricter drug tests than the rubbish they conduct in Russia. The recent roided Povetkin is to be favoured I'm afraid.

 

Both fighters have flaws but I think Wilder is all wrong for pov will catch him coming in and drop him .hopefully we will soon find out should be great.

 

Povetkin is underrated. He has improved, and without Wlad is the #1 guy and undefeated.

Wilder is overrated by his fans only, seen as just a top 3-5 type of talent by most object non-fan boy types. Wilder who has not fought a top ten man as champion,was actually exposed a bit in victory.

If Molina, Duhaphus, and Szpilka can make you look bad or work hard, you're not a top talent. Povetkin should KO Wilder.

The good news for Wilder fans is Povetkin will be 36 when the match happens.

 

Has Povetkin really improved, or has he just been fighting overblown competition since Wlad?

I think its pretty safe to say Manuel Charr is a can. I honestly think Mike Perez blew his load with Jennings. He hasn't even fought since Povetkin. There was something up with him that night, sort of reminded me of Andrew Golota against Lennox Lewis, just looked beat before he ever stepped in the ring. Mairusz Wach is basically a big punching bag, his best wins were Christian Hammer and Kevin McBride.

Carlos Takam was solid, but again what is his best win? He's beat some club fighters since Povetkin, and prior to that it was washed up Tony Thompson, who couldn't even beat Malik Scott.

 

First off, I don't know how bad they actually made him look. Duahaupus and Molina both received pretty much one sided beatings. They had their moments, but never really threatened him at all. Molina wobbled Wilder a little bit but Molina can hit. He wobbled Arreola too.

Spzilka was a stylistic anomaly and mostly ran from him the entire fight. Soon as he tried to come in Wilder damn near killed him.

Second, Molina and Duhapaus both knocked out two fighters who had never been stopped and were while past their prime once highly regarded fighters. One was unbeaten. They aren't the bums you are making out.

 

What you are saying looks more like Povetkin looked so good that there had to be something wrong with Perez, just like those who accuse Sasha with peds.

And based on their fight, Duhaupas was just slightly better than Charr.

Also in my book, Takam beat Perez more decisively than Jennings did.

 

You don't know.. STOP RIGHT THERE.

Duahaupus gave Wilder a huge black eye.

Molina who did not land much wobbled Wilder.

Spzilka vs Wilder was close enough until the stoppage.

The problem is these are top 20-50 level talents! If you have to inflate fighters of this rank to make Wilder look good, you are a fanboy, plain and simple.

Povetkin is more skilled than any of these guys, fights smarter, is more durable and hits harder.

 

pov is certainly the most experienced fighter that Wilder will have faced if the fight goes ahead, but at his age hes not going to bring enough to the table.

Hes simply not progressed enough since his amateur days, and its too late now to get good enough to win a world title.