Lennox Lewis' physical strength and power

Yes but as every Lewis fan who is worth his salt will let you know they were lucky punches...

Of course I know he lost twice, but there was always an excuse by the fans.

 

See this is what I'm referring to. IF Lewis had the style,size and power to beat Holyfield at any stage,why did he go 24 close rounds with a past it Holyfield?

Also there were a few people who had Evander winning team second fight. So if a prime Lewis can just s****e by a Holyfield on the decline can you really see him being able to handle a prime Evander? Because I don't.

 

And you are perpetuating what I said about alot of Lewis fans, very *****y and twisting what I actually said.

At what point did I say Holyfield was shot? What I said was he was in decline. For example he wasn't the Holyfield of the early 90's and it is you who is being ignorant to this fact.

Holyfield was favoured as the USA never regarded Lewis as being all that good and to say Tyson and Moore were his two best wins, I say you must be ignoring the victory over Bowe.

 

So I'm an idiot because I don't agree with you that the Holyfield that beat Bowe was the same Holyfield that lost to Lewis?

Ok I can live with that.

Holyfield was past his prime, it was YOU whom said that I said he was shot...Again I never said this.

Ok well take this into account in his next 3 fights Holyfield went 1-1-1 with Ruiz and was knocked down heavily off Ruiz, something Lewis couldn't do.

Again this isn't prime Holyfield, but that doesn't fit with your pro Lewis agenda.

I tell you what stick a poll up asking did Lewis beat a prime Holyfield and lets see the results.

 

Again if you think the Holyfield of 99' is better than the Holyfield of 92/93 circa then the obviously is no debating you. This is seen with the condescending tone of your post.

Who said Holyfield was peak in 97?

If anything he looked awful against Czyz in 96 and was considered shot prior to his first fight against a Tyson who had been fed easy touches since his release. Then he beat a soft champion in Moorer avenging a loss then he looked average winning the decision against Vaughan Bean....he wasn't prime in 97.

And again if he was prime or closer to his alleged prime, by your reckoning Ruiz beat a better Holyfield than Bowe.

Oh and just before I go if you consider the Bowe of the Holyfield trilogy fat, then it's obviously you kind sir who needs to take those pro Lewis rose tinted glasses off.

Again stick a poll up asking about Holyfield's prime. 92/93 or 97/99.

 

Aww c'mon man that first Holyfield "draw" was a diabolical robbery. No one was more surprised than Vander when Eugenia Williams ludicrous card was read out giving Vander the dec Except maybe Lennox same as O'Conner the Brits "draw" card
Lennox won both fights comfortably. Obviously yet another King inspired decision. Ms Willians STILL continued to judge but changed name to Gene Williams. Wonder why ????/

 

The Holyfield of the Lewis fights did not have the workrate, agility and speed that he displayed in the Bowe fights. He was muscle-bound and couldn't fight the full 3 minutes anymore. A young 91 Holyfield would have been all over Lewis. Fighters that could maintain a quarter of the pace Holyfield could in the early 90s had Lewis huffing and puffing.

 

I'm a huge Lewis fan but the idea that 99 Holyfield was as good if not better than early 90's Holyfield is ludicrous.

While I do think Holyfield did have a lot of success late in his career due to increased weight and the power that came with that, he wasn't better than the younger version of himself, he was more effective against certain styles being stronger and hitting harder but those improvements would not have worked against big heavies like Bowe or Lewis.

So when Holyfield fought Lewis he was never going to be as effective as his younger self who may have been less strong and powerful but was quicker and more agile with better combinations. An early 90's Evander would have been a tougher proposition for Lewis.

But I do think Lewis would always beat Evander. Holyfield even in his prime didn't have the style to handle Lewis. He lacked the power for a one shot KO, he speed, agility and combinations while making him a trickier opponent wouldn't have been enough as he would have always had to come to the bigger man and could never out jab and outbox Lewis like he did with Bowe in their 2nd fight. Lewis at his best dominated Evander in a way he never was before the clash of styles would always favour Lewis.

 

I've never said I thought Lewis lost either fight. What I did say is there were people who had Holyfield edging their second fight.

But what I am saying and stand by it is a prime Holyfield circa 92/93 beats any version of Lewis. This is not detracting from Lewis's greatness just that I think the bedt of Holyfield beats the best of Lewis.

 

Foh. Lewis has our respect. Like any champion when you lose, you have to prove yourself and Lewis did that tenfold. You aren't speaking for Americans clown. Your just throwing out a pathetic jealous opinion of us Americans. You could never speak for us.:nut