Wilder vs Povetkin is a monumental clash for HW ATG status

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    So Wlad is possibly the GOAT , coming off a loss to Tyson Fury?? :huh

    If Wlad is so good and losing to him is such a certainty that it doesn't even have a negative effect on one's resume , what the hell does it make somebody who beat him one sided????

    :patsch:rofl
     
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  3. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    It's a reasonable argument. Top 30 is pushing it a bit though.
     
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  4. latineg

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    yes that is quite a accomplishment most forget :good

    plus he won that medal with a strong showing that somehow seemed to fly under the radar :bbb
     
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  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Fury is The Lineal HW Champion and Povetkin is not on his level , nor will he ever be.
     
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  6. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he was American and especially white American people would consider him top 10 ATG and Klitchko would be hyped too because he beat him. The fight between the two would sell 6 million PPV.
     
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  7. latineg

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    I thought you said Sasha wasn't at fault because Waldo so blatantly cheated???

    Which I kind of agree with other than not to the degree you believe it :p

    regardless, Wlad is huge compared to Sasha and gave him a very difficult fight because he was able to get away with so much man handling of Sasha. My point is, without that holding maybe Sasha would of done far better against Waldo, maybe even beaten him for all we know :think
     
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  8. Slavic Fighter

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    Because he beat some ****ty scared possibly shot to pieces version of Wlad. The only good win on his resume. By that logic Medgoen Singsurat has a better resume than Povetkin too.
     
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  9. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Keep crying.

    Klitschko would have manhandled Povetkin into submission that night the same he did 2 years earlier.

    Wlad was coming off the best streak of his career, he looked like an absolute monster against Pulev a year earlier, and suddenly he got shot overnight...even though barely any signs of deterioration were noticeable.
     
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  10. latineg

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    well I don't agree he would be close to top 10 but I agree if he were American he would be far more celebrated and ranked higher than he is. They love their gold medal winners.
     
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  11. dinovelvet

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    The same version beat Povetkin and Pulev who was the #1 HW Contender. And its a great win. Of which Povetkin has NONE.

    No , by that logic Marquez has a better record than Povetkin.
     
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  12. Staminakills

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    Wilder will easily shatter top 40 atg hw rankings over next decade, which are subjective and a very weak weight class all in all.

    Not more than a couple hw's are true top 50 argument to begin with.

    Ali
    LL
    Holy
    Frazier
    Foreman
    Holmes,

    Then it get tough to fit any other hw as true atg's.

    My atg max is 50, you can't have more than 50 true atgreats. Just waters it down too much
     
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  13. Slavic Fighter

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    You mean an actual submission like standing guillotine choke? Because in the first fight it looked like they were fighting under shoot boxing rules where wrestling throws are allowed among other things.

    That fight was a disgrace and Klitschko should have been disqualified.

    "Barely any signs"... He looked like he wouldn't punch to save his life. Fury won the fight with like 3 jabs to the body a round. I don't think a single brain cell was killed in that "fight".
     
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  14. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Same version? Klitschko from those fight was actually throwing punches.

    Let's not forget Klitschko had an injury prior to the fight with Fury which is why the fight was postponed. It seems like that injury was never healed properly. Let's wait to see the rematch because that was nothing like Klitschko we know.

    Other than Klitschko Fury's best wins are cruiserweights and that Romanian dude

    Valuev has a better resume than Fury
     
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  15. dinovelvet

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    He looked like that at his absolute best against Sultan Imbragmov.

    You don't know what you're talking about.

    False.

    http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/art...TES/s1200/Tyson-Fury-v-Wladimir-Klitschko.jpg
     
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