168 heating up

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  1. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We have Callum Smith who is HUGE for 168. The man is 6 ft 3. I want to see him in with Gilberto Ramirez.
    Degale is on a frenzy
    Bute vs Jack will tell us alot about both men
    Groves can expect a few more losses on his way out
    The Dirrell sisters can keep fighting top 50 ranked fighters as they bemoan their fall from the top
     
  2. coltaine

    coltaine Member Full Member

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    how long will mundo and zurdo actually stay in this division though i wonder? it'd probably benefit them to do so, but they're both very big for the weight. smith has claimed in the past that he's comfortable at 168 and could even make 160, just not sure i believe him.
     
  3. jord86

    jord86 Guest

    Only until GGG moved up and they all run up another divison
     
  4. sasuke

    sasuke Guest

    smith looks great but wouldnt stand a chance at 175

    ramirez doesnt look good at all

    degale is doing well

    groves is finished

    the dirrells are a joke
     
  5. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    GGG is not moving up until Christopher Eubank Jr bashes him then he'll be used goods
     
  6. coltaine

    coltaine Member Full Member

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    Aside from power, I think Smith and Ramirez are pretty well matched. Stylistically, I think Smith may well find Ramirez very awkward head to head, as he struggled (maybe that's an exaggeration, but didn't look comfortable let's say) against the only other southpaw he faced, and Ramirez is a particularly awkward southpaw. The pair actually have similar strengths and weaknesses to these eyes even though they aren't stylistically identical or anything. Basically, they both lack elite handspeed, mobility or defense, and they both only seem fully comfortable in the pocket. They both seem like they have the tools to dictate fights from the outside, and they both have good jabs when they get them going, but neither does so consistently, and ring control can be a problem for them.

    On the flipside, both are very big at the weight, very good technicians with beautiful timing and accuracy, very calm, disciplined, smart in there. I'm not sure either has a really high ceiling, but they seem like the kind of guys who will reach whatever their ceiling is - they both have an aura of dedication and mental fortitude about them.

    Being a gangly southpaw who throws at a pretty high volume, I think Ramirez finds a lot of weird angles and is just generally gonna be difficult to prepare for or figure out, whereas Smith is more orthodox and predictable (particularly in later rounds, where he has sometimes settled into that Luke Campbell kinda mode of throwing out of the textbook) but has more punishing power it seems, which is a quality that mustn't be underestimated - I suspect Smith does have the greater potential of the pair for this reason.

    I think these qualities may be enough to take both of them into the 168 top 5 as things stand, perhaps even top 3. 175 is a different kettle of fish entirely though, and they won't be able to rely on their size advantages so much... I can imagine them both looking rather more ordinary at that weight, honestly, but I guess we'll see!
     
  7. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GGG will beat Eubank by tko, though Eubank is hugely under rated and he's far superior to his pops in everything except resume which is all that seems to matter. Not who is the actual superior fighter but who got the quicker chances at paydays.

    Eubank will hang tough but lose from the 9th to the 11th. Ggg doesn't let fights go to round 12 where one can literally run around the ring and hold just to see the last bell
     
  8. Capt

    Capt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, I'm very intrigued by a potential Ramirez-Smith match up.
     
  9. anders100

    anders100 Active Member Full Member

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    I favor Smith if he fights Zurdo. 65/35 atm. Maybe i will change my mind after the Abraham fight.
     
  10. benbo1445

    benbo1445 mombasa Full Member

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    smith is a lot better than u give him credit for i believe he is already the best SMW on the planet and in the next year he is going to prove it.
     
  11. GGGisGOODboy

    GGGisGOODboy Active Member Full Member

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    :rofl GGG will go to MMA before hes moves up
    He will get exposed