Mike Tyson vs Joe Frazier

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  1. foreman&dempsey

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    ali was very different in 1963 than he was in 1971, he was stronger, he had more experience and was more durable, and frazier did hurt him much more than cooper did,in 1966 cooper could not even hurt ali sorry my dear troll.
    tyson never stopped any relevant name in his complete carrer... michael spinks? 137 years old holmes?
     
  2. Azzer85

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    Yeah, he was faster and harder to hit cleanly

    Yeah, the Ali who manhandled Liston was nowhere near as strong as the Ali who manhandled Foreman. :lol:

    Based on what?
    Hed had 4 fights prior to Frazier after his exile, against guys hed already beat! :lol:

    Because prior to the layoff Ali had no chin and suddenly just grew one with 3-4 years of inactivity. :lol:

    Cooper had Ali on ***** street, against Frazier he was down for about 1 or 2 seconds and got up and carried on fighting.

    He had a longer KO list than Joking Smoe :lol:
     
  3. foreman&dempsey

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    ali was drunk with frazier and you can see that he was nearly down several times, the ropes did help him to keep on his feet. cooper knocked him down and then ali got up , no effect
     
  4. Azzer85

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    You do realise that Frazier was the black fighter and Cooper was the white guy?

    I think you might have them confused.

    :lol:
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    Easier to list the fighters he didn't stop :

    Muhammad Ali
    George Foreman
    Oscar Bonavena
    Joe Bugner
    George Johnson
    Jumbo Cummings

    He had 27 stoppages. KO percentage 73%


    Fighters Tyson didn't stop :

    Evander Holyfield
    Lennox Lewis
    James Tillis
    Mitch Green
    James Smith
    Tony Tucker
    Danny Williams
    Kevin McBride

    45 KOs. KO percentage 77%
     
  6. Wass1985

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    And Tyson had Tillis who in your words was a poor man's Ali down for about half a second.... boy he was a killer...
     
  7. Azzer85

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    Its a bit deceiving because Tyson had a lot more fights.

    Flip the script, shall we look at who each knocked out?
     
  8. Wass1985

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    Notice how Tinkerbell Tyson lost to half those he didn't stop....
     
  9. Azzer85

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    Well Henry Cooper > Joe Frazier :lol:

    Infact Chuck Wepners 'trip' had Ali down just as long as Fraziers left hook :lol:
     
  10. Wass1985

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    An ancient Larry Holmes and a blown up Light Heavyweight....
     
  11. Azzer85

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    Tyson - Only person to Ko Larry Holmes
    Frazier - Put down Ali for 1-2 seconds.

    :lol:
     
  12. Wass1985

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    Well Greg Page > Mike Tyson....
     
  13. Wass1985

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    You belive a prime Frazier doesn't knock out pensioner Holmes....
     
  14. Azzer85

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    No. You just killed off the joke there. :patsch
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Yes, deceiving it is, perhaps because he also fought a lot more bums.
    Frazier was fighting Bonavena in his 12th pro fight.
    He was fighting Machen in his 13th fight.
    He fought Chuvalo in his 17th fight.

    Remind me who Tyson was fighting in fights 12, 13 and 17 ? Seriously.

    I already have, but, yes, go ahead.