Does anyone from 154-168 beat prime RJJ?

At 160, if Jones has to go through a same day weigh in.

There's a fair amount I'd pick over him based on their ability to stop him late.

I say fair amount, so far it's Robinson, Monzon and Hagler.

Not thinking about 154 because he's totally green there and anyone might have a chance of beating him on experience alone.

 

I'd say Sugar Rays Leonard and Robinson at 154 lbs,definitely. The heavier in weight,I'd favour Jones over both,though.


At 160 lbs - Hagler and Monzon. Jones is probably the best ever 168 lb man.

 

Mike McCallum (McCallum was a million years old when they fought at LHW), Donald Curry, Julian Jackson, Terry Norris, Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, Bernard Hopkins (had they fought sometime between their actual two fights), Michael Nunn, Graciano Rocchigiani, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Henry Wharton, Michael Watson, Herol Graham, Sumbu Kalambay, Emile Griffith, Carlos Monzon, Dlck Tiger, James Toney (in a rematch), Tony Zale, Marcel Cerdan, Jake Lamotta, Rocky Graziano (limited fighter but durable with legit power), and Ray Robinson.

I'm not saying they all beat Jones, but they would all have a decent chance at least. I doubt Jones could beat Robinson, Leonard, Hearns, or Hagler.

 

Joe Calzaghe beats him at any point of his career.

 

same joe never had the ***** to go seek him out before he was a busted flush and prove just that.

 

Heh

 

Wharton?

Rochigianni?

Why couldn't Roy have beaten Leonard, Hearns and Hagler?

 

Only on his xbox.

 

The question isnt who COULD beat him. Lots of guys COULD. The real question is who beats him greater than 50% of the time.

Under 168, the only fighter in history who beats RJJ >50% is Sugar Ray Robinson.

And im not 100% positive about that.

Just one man's opinion.

 

Roy is Great! but...
IMHO it's these 'tweenie' titles that have ruined boxing.
How about who could beat Roy at 160?
How about who could beat Roy at 175?
We have nothing to watch anymore as boxing fans.
I called the recent Pac-Floyd to a tee:
Both great fighters, Floyd, with his undefeated record, was coasting based on his defensive skills to just stay undefeated costing true boxing fans a great fight! Floyd only cares about his 'legacy', not the fans.
I said Floyd would box him, build a lead, get caught with an occasional big shot and weather the storm. Final result?
UD for Floyd, and everyone crying for a rematch....
They should have fought several years ago.
My favorite sport is DEAD. 4-5 different 'Champions? 40+ top ten 'contenders'?
A 'champion' every 4-5 pounds? WHY? Greedy MONEY!!!!!!!
Maybe we should all just go and watch the UFC bull****.
atsch

 

How was Roy prime at 154? Odd. I wouldn't even consider his prime at 160 either really, but at least there is some evidence there....

 

I fancy Nunn to outbox him over 12 (thoroughly) and Eubank to knock him out (sneak right counter of leaping open hook). That's just in his own era.

 

A guy who got ko'd by one of RJJs best wins at 160 and a guy who got outboxed twice by michael Watson?

 

Nunn and Eubank stood Toney and Watson on their heads at 160 for 5-6 rounds, until the 10th or 11th. For what it's worth. Toney was in far better shape against Nunn than he was against Jones, and Watson in far better shape against Eubank than he was against McCallum. And both Nunn and Eubank looked more impressive than Jones and McCallum, until weight issues kicked in. For what it's worth.

Yes Nunn out-boxes Jones all night, with his far superior balance and fluidity, (not to mention height, range, stance). And yes Eubank catches Jones at least once in 12 with that deadly sneak counter right, with Jones wide open for it with the hook leaps. Toney and Griffin were flat-footed guys and Hopkins walked in in straight lines back then; few boxers moved as well as Nunn or Eubank, ever.