Wladimir Klitschkos Reign

Anyone in that list could put perfect performance against Arias.

Yeah he got skill and tallent but his skills are not world champion level yet

 

Yes it is.

But his power isn't world level yet.

See Pulev's performance and compare it for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHbJPY2MU0A

 

I say Wladimir Klitschko is a bonfire top 5 ATG heavyweight, definitely top 10.

 

He didn't duck a single fighter in his entire career. Boring? Yes. Fearless? Also yes. ATG when it comes to meeting mandatory es? He'll yes.

 

Rightly better than anyone pre Ali?.were all HWs pre Ali sparked by journey men and then failed to avenge the loss ?must have missed that.

 

Yes he will, in fact it's already happened.

I have him in my top 15 and that is a sign of greatness in of itself.

I'm also fairly confident he'll make the HOF.

Not sure what criteria you use to measure greatness though.

 

He either knows sweet f.a about boxing or is a pure hater if he doesn't see Wlad as an ATG.

 

No but guys from ancient times stand no change against modern athletes. Not just in boxing, in any sport

 

Turnip is appropriately names, he has a vegetable for a brain. Don't bother trying logic with him.

 

No, on a legacy basis, Luis and Ali will remain considerably above Wlad.

And on H2H, Wlad is about as often as not considered above Louis, 75% above everyone pre Louis. In 30 years, that Ali will take Louis's place in that regard. I.e. about 50% of people will say he's better than Ali h2h, and about 75% say he's above Louis and everyone pre Ali. It's tough to accept the general progression of sports, and the impact of size in combat sports, but all the more so the more prominent the figure in culture. In 30 years, a lot of people my age and older who were brought up with him as the boxing legend or watched him live will die out, and younger people will be able to evaluate it more rationally without the emotional bias that people of our generation and before have.

 

any sport? ru sure? u have knowledge of every sport ever played?

Because that to me would seem a horribly arrogant belief. It sounds almost like you are trying to hide behind a sweeping belief system "its true God exists so I'm right for everything so shut up"

 

apart from a fear of a fat failed 38 year old retiree and the other two guys.

 

fricking



K.S.D.O.A.

 

that I have seen

better. (full stop required)

 

Who had more title defenses than Louis?

Also, Joe Louis was lucky to beat Joe Walcott in their first fight. The fight was a robbery and 2/3 of the reporters who scored it ( over 20 did ) felt Walcott won.

Fury won the first match, but Wlad will make adjustments.