Nearing the anniversary of... 750ml IV TUE.

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  1. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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  2. M.3

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    So every other boxer is too broke to pay people off? For most of Floyd's career he was with Top Rank and wasn't making that money.. Was Arum paying guys off for him because his KO rate dropped and he had the same stamina he always had.. All boxers worth cheating for has money or a promoter with money, so anyone could be a cheater including your favorite fighter right? But let me guess, he wasn't caught with IVs huh?
     
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    I could be wrong, but I thought it was explained that they tested him before and after the IV and USADA was there during it? And I thought it was explained he didn't even need a TUE because it was voluntary testing but he did it anyway.. And he applied for it before the fight but it was approved later.. Which is stupid I agree, but that's what happened...
     
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    You guys keep coming up with di ck stupid reasons to gulp down their explanations.

    You know who Catlin is by now right?
     
  5. maguswarlock

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    you forgot fluid camp accused pac of peds but they found no evidence and pac filed a defamation suit from on which fluid backtracked and settled out of court.. nvm that Mr fluid testerone tests were also found to be revealing lol.
     
  6. M.3

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    That has absolutely nothing to do with what we're taking about.. I think it was petty of Team Pac to sue, but it's whatever to me for real.. It's a sport with men fighting and he can't take someone talking stuff.. Even though I don't think Team Mayweather should have said the stuff he did...

    I still think he could have cheated.. I don't know what you guys are arguing about.. I like a few others here just have an open mind.. He could be innocent too.. He could have saved all this bribery money by just not doing any blood testing.. There's reasons to belive he did and didn't cheat, but you guys are so hateful towards him that you can't see it..

    Also, no one answered my earlier question.. Does anyone know how much fluid did Oscar receive before his Pac fight and does anyone care because he lost?
     
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    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    C'mon man get serious for once...
    Mayweather is exposed for receiving an illegal excessive 750 ml of saline drip in his own home. He cannot lie because he was CAUGHT!!! Ask any medical professional their opinion on this ?
    Mayweathers excuses were " My urine was dark Very dark" then later it was " Floyd was asked to provide a sample of urine for testing & he was unable to do so" ROFL They happen to have 750 ml of saline in his home huh ?? how fortunate:rofl
    Ive asked several nurses & doctors & all agreed " If Floyd was unable to urinate all he needed to do was drink a pint of water that would have sufficed plus IF he was dehydrated badly enough to need 750 ml of saline drip he would likely have been in ICU in 24 hours not in a boxing ring running around for 12 rounds = 36 minutes" As for the " Dark urine" there are many things could cause that.
    When you see the NSAC allow him to apply for a TUE NINETEEN days AFTER her received the drip, grant him it & issue this statement " Mr Mayweather did nothing wrong we will not be investigating" What other conclusion can you come to other than CORRUPTION!!!
    If Ive stated anything that is not factual please tell me what it is OK:think
     
  8. Yarkshireman

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    Floyd Mayweather Jr the only fighter who in history refuses to do day of the fight weigh ins because he is an alleged small 140 fighter fighting these bigger monsters.

    Only to then be caught with a saline because all of a sudden he's dehydrated due to making weight.
     
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    "floyd's urine was dark, extremely dark." - ellerbe
     
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    the time that made weak boxers bolder with ped's since it was very easy to get away with it in USADA and NSAC. the worst point of boxing history. "he did not do anything wrong" because they said so, just like that. he
     
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    It was a lot.. It's that your only problem is that it was a lot of saline? It has to because everything else would mean that everyone else who was "currupt" didn't know what they were doing..

    If he was using PEDs throughout his training, he would need to use IVs before every test.. Why didn't USADA leak that? Because they were paid off right? Them who said something on the day he was "caught"?

    Wouldn't it be dumb to train normally but use PEDs when training is over? Unless he knew when he was getting tested.. If he did know, how didn't he know who was in his house when he was receiving the IV?

    You and that whole post doesn't answer these questions.. No wonder why do many innocent people are locked up today...
     
  12. M.3

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    No one thinks Floyd can make 140.. If you want to talk, talk like an adult instead of making things up and think people will believe it.. Plenty of boxers don't do day of fight weigh in.. I don't see the point of them anyway.. Floyd walks around at about 150-155 maybe.. Not a whole lot of WWs walk around at that weight.. It's usually more.. I won't bother replying to you unless you talk like am adult and stop making extremes up to make your argument more believable...
     
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    Aren't you the guy who have a long list of quotes of people who said Floyd wad scared to fight Pac? Do you still have it?
     
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    You can microdose EPO and stay under USADA biological passport threshold, ****ing easily. You can use roids and stay under USADA's high 6:1 T:E raito, again pretty ****ing easily. The important take away point is that USADA RARELY uses or goes to the CIR test, so a doper like Fluid who has money and the means, his father figure ****ing runs a line of TRT clinics, like Fluid wouldn't know **** about roids... And since CIR is not a front line test for USADA, they basically don't give a **** about determining whether you are on roids or not until you surpass their T:E raito limit. This is in stark contrast to VADA who do care exactly what type of testosterone is in your system, regardless of your T:E ratios.

    As I was writing, there's all sorts of **** an educated doper can do. And as shown by Floyd Landis, you can dope to high hell one day and become a superman. Too bad for Landis he didn't have the luxury of using an IV righter after sucking down a mass amount of roids before he went out there and crushed the field doped to the gills.


    http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/features/floyd-landis-the-almost-tour-legend/
     
  15. thesmokingm

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    Not really sure you flamos understand how this **** works. When you train, your T:E ratio drops like a lead weight because you used up your testosterone for training. Thus after a hard day you have to recover, no training for your levels to come back up. Since USADA uses a strict T:E ratio, this allows you to use steroids to raise your T:E ratio back up to normal amking it so you can recover in your sleep, allowing you to train like a mutha the very next day again. This is cheaters training 101. Under USADA you can employ this basic fundamental doping 101 tactic and gain much more from training than other boxers could under VADA. VADA uses the CIR test, so regardless of your ratios, they test for synthetic testosterone all the time. Thus you cannot raise your ratios or mess with them arbitrarily w/o risking getting popped.