Nearing the anniversary of... 750ml IV TUE.

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  1. MVC!

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  2. M.3

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    Well it should be easy for everyone to cheat.. USADA should be closed down and sued by every company who uses them and they should be jailed..

    Seriously though, why would Floyd not just use regular standard testing of he just wanted to cheat? All the test used to be just urine test.. If he was cheating for so long, why would he even need USADA? Let me guess, to make sure he was the only person cheating?

    Like I said, he could have cheated.. You and CJ could be absolutely right about everything.. What I can't understand is why not even have a sliver of believe belief that he didn't cheat? You and I both make good points of how he could have cheated and how he could be innocent, but you ignore the latter.. That's why these debates/arguments never go anywhere because you are so closed minded...
     
  3. M.3

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    You don't need USADA for that.. Testing before Floyd's "OSDT" suggestion didn't do any of that.. You guys act like Floyd made using PEDs easier by using USADA instead of the Walmart urine test that it used to be...
     
  4. thesmokingm

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    You know what ethics are? You seem to think it's ok to pick and choose what you want ignoring the rest. The irony is that you claim others doing this, but it's you that is guilty. You ignore the fact that Fluid was caught with an IV. The TUE which came 19 days after was only known because Thomas Hauser broke the story. That is unethical that Fluid used a massive IV the night before the fight, and it was hidden. That is NOT how an ANTI, ANTI as in AGAINST DOPING right? That is not how USADA is supposed to act. They completely broke their own rules.

    Stop drawing out questions of semantics and answer to the facts for once?
     
  5. M.3

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    I did talk about the IV if you read it.. I did say it was a lot of saline he took and we still don't know why.. I do think the whole IV thing is fishy.. I also talked about how he got "caught" by the "corrupt" people who were supposed to protect him.. I later said is it turns out he is a cheater, I would be the fist to say how disappointed I am. I shouldn't ask the question of how did his paid off people walk in his house without him knowing though...

    I don't know what else you want.. I agree with some of your points and because I don't agree with all of it and flat out call him a dirty cheater, I'm a (Insert name you give for Floyd fans).. I'm the crazy one for wanting to know the real truth instead of coming up with my own truth that could be right, but might be wrong..

    You can't even be an adult and write the mans name.. That's how I know you are one of those "Floyd Haters".. You think he is without a doubt a cheater because what he did was unethical..
     
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    yes he did.
     
  7. maguswarlock

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    Lmao :rofl
     
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  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So was it unethical what USADA allowed Fluid to do?

    If it was unethical, then why act like USADA is agency of importance?

    His name is Fluid, it's ironic don't you think? Here's the man that brought up Olympic Style Drug Testing, and yet he was caught with a whole lot of fluid in his own home, had it hidden, and had a TUE manufactured to cover his ass.


    Sorry, why am I supposed to hold USADA let alone Fluid in any sort of respect?


    See it's pretty simple. If you conclude that they acted in any way unethically, then they all lose credibility. But that's problematic for you because then you'd have to treat them as cheaters, Fluid included, which you won't as evidence by your lack of any grounding in your replies to reality.

    :lol::rofl
     
  10. M.3

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    Sooooooo because it's suspicious or "unethical" he's automatically guilty? I'm glad no one has to follow those dumb rules.. Did O.J do it? Since it was unethical to run from the police, he did it.. It was unethical for team Pac to lie about the Marquez cuts, so that means without a doubt, they ducked Floyd..

    I'll say it one more time.. Until the real whole truth comes out, I'm going to say he might be guilty, but he also might be innocent.. I know you have the perfect response to this because there is no possible way Floyd wasn't cheating...
     
  11. maguswarlock

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    it's more like what Ben Johnson did was unethical.

    the truth points to itself. if the man does shady stuff. then he is shady.

    750ml iv day before fight. administered at his own home. with no valid reason for it other than to mask peds or doping. got the tue for it 3 weeks after the fight from organisation who claim to prohibit such iv use without prior tue approval.

    meanwhile pac applied for painkiller before fight and denied.

    pac wasn't just plainly cheated but robbed by a guy who accussed him of roids whilst that guys own t/e ratios are more indicative of it.
     
  12. Doc Everlast

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    Strong pain killers get you all amped up for a while before you get sleepy.
     
  13. maguswarlock

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    what. like the ones mayweather used prior to fights xylocaine lidocaine. he use to use the even stronger stuff novocaine
     
  14. M.3

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    You know what's shady? Pac refusing or asking for a cut off from testing.. Then complain because it 14 days wasn't long enough.. Do you think he was dirty? More than likely not..

    Like I said, there's no point in talking to you.. MVC says there's a 0% chance he cheated, you say it's 100% chance he cheated, I say between 40%-60% or anything other than 0%/100%, I'm the blind Floyd follower and a Floyd hater at the same time..

    I'm not understanding how you really believe there's a 100% chance he cheated because he had an crazy amount of saline.. You don't even say 80% which leaves a little doubt.. It's like the saline was the actual PED and he was caught on camera using it by D'Angelo Russell and confirmed what it was.. Then it would be a 99.999999% chance he cheated.. That .000001 is when he finally admit it...
     
  15. maguswarlock

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    one who swims in sal****er for recuperation vs one who injects himself with 750ml saline and vitamins everytime he gets scared of fighting and needed to hide peds used... who is saltier?

    or salty on the outside vs salty inside?..