Wladimir Klitschkos Reign

Hmmm .how many on your list lost in devastating fashion in their mid 20s?.and didn't avenge the defeat.

 

Armstrong and Charles.

 

That's rich coming from you :rofl

 

you have made that claim, only your "Spartans" are HWs of the 2010s. Why you lying?

I'm not advancing any claims about Spartans, as I've already said. YOU ARE about your "modern Spartans" (if you don't mind me using that moniker for what you see as superior boxers).

About time you backed it up.

 

you mean the absolutes measured bests, yes that's what I said, such as in athletics.

so you admit with absolute certainty that there is knowledge which cannot possibly be around anymore in some sports. I wonder, at what point was the knowledge of ancients games NOT passed down? 50 years after the fall of greek civilisation? 100 years? Certainly after 200 or 300 years.

How long has boxing been around? 100, 200, 300 years? Would you therefore admit that there is the strong possibility that at least some knowledge is not here anymore from other sports such as boxing - given that boxing knowledge is global from many more sources than in sports knowledge in ancient times when it had a few localised sources as you point out?

 

By journey men?

 

What's your definition of a journeyman?

And why don't you do your own research, their careers are a matter if public record.

 

Klitschko will be forgotten in 10 Years.

A Guy like Joshua has much more Fans and Fame as Klitschko
ever had and even in Klitschkos best years Golovkin , Mayweather ,
Pacquiao and many , many other Boxers were much better known in the world
than Wladimir Klitschko.

And that is measurable on google , in Tv , News around the World ,
whatever...get over it.

 

In England maybe, no where else yet ya circus loving chump.

 

bit extreme, K bros are more well known than Joshua at this point.

 

Fixed it

 

He maid the claim weirdo.
Still fact is that old time achievements and records are destroyed in all sports where they can be measured.

Fans of the sports where they cant be measured think that 180 Bob Fitzimon of 1800th would rule super heavyweights with an iron fist

 

Worldwide the kbros are more known than Pacman and Floyd. Thats A fact

 

Yet you were proved wrong with Babe Ruth. And all you have to do is look at how guys of today struggle with an average paced 12 rounds to see thay don't hold a candle to the old timers..

All i took away from this encounter , is that you're an absolute clown.

 

Not really looking to get involved in this debate right now, but need to correct a bad misunderstanding it looks like you both have from above. Babe Ruth was in a TEAM sport. His "tangible" records were compiled against others from his own era. That doesn't go to the other posters point at all. Its essentially the same as Joe Louis having the record for consecutive title defenses.

I.E., Babe Ruth was more dominant against his era's pitchers etc than anyone in any subsequent era, but it doesn't show how he would do against this era's pitchers. In team sports, objective measurements of performance harder to come by. Punts and placekicking in football would be a good example, where all the records are broken.

What I think the other poster is getting at is that all or almost all records in sports where the records are made, not in relation to their performance against contemporaries, but in a way that can be fixed throughout time, get broken after about 35 years at most.

Personally, in combat sports, where size is so important that they make weight classes, and where the cruiserweight division now exists which would essentially stand in for the HW division of 50 years ago, its particularly hard to imagine a scenario where someone of that era or earlier could be real competitive with one of the SHW giant champs of today. It would be like Kovalev fighting Joshua at their current weights.