Ali's H2H ability

I rate Ali #2 right behind Joe Louis on the all time legacy list, sometimes I've put him at one. The things he achieved in his era, beating as many ATG's as he did, and essentially dominating two different era's, may never occur again.

But he gets tremendously overrated on an H2H basis. His reliance on size and his lack of power would doom him in the modern era. Power is the great equalizer, I can at least see Joe Louis having a chance nowadays because of his power. Look through the records of Lewis, Wlad, Vitali, Fury. When you see modern SHW's lose to smaller HW's, its essentially ALWAYS due to power. At this point, its fair to say that a dominant SHW cannot be "outboxed" by a much smaller man. No matter how fast etc they are, you stick the jab out, and you're going to take them.

Ali was the tallest dominant HW champ ever when he won his title. He was usually the taller man, almost always in his first reign, and essentially NEVER faced a good contender who was both taller and heavier than him. He had a height (and even more so, a weight) advantage in his career and he used it well. If he fought in an era of SHWs, his skills would translate less well than those of more hard hitting champs.

 

Only in your warped little mind would proving your point be called "destroyed". And I never made a specific thread like this before, polling on how many other people can perceive that Ali's game translates less well to the modern era than others.

 

I don't think Usyk can succeed. As a top 10 hw, sure, but not as a dominant champ. I'd admit I was wrong if so, but all evidence is to the contrary.

 

Sounds good, always enjoy destroying you in this stuff. And yes, the people posting that Ali would magically transcend the rules of physics etc are wrong. They don't "destroy" my points, they just ignore them (but can't do that quite as well as you can).

 

Sure, he's magic, can transcend physics. How is he even going to touch Wlad? Shorter reach, shorter body. Wlad an expert at keeping shorter heavies off with the jab. Never had any problem with it against a myriad of super fast HW's(all coming out of a much larger talent pool than Ali came from). But sure, even though schools are separated into divisions because they understand the concept of unfair advantages from larger talent pools, Ali magically transcends that, along with everything else.