Ali's H2H ability

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  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Fair enough, you're an intelligent debater, and its always good to debate intelligently (unlike having to just school someone like HG) :good
     
  2. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    ALi would be like 225-235 pounds today - and fit!

    [url]http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/joe-frasier/10098880.jpg[/url]

    Natural big guy - especially for his time.

    But it still wouldn't be enough for today.

    In that tale of the tape, he had bigger legs than Wilder, Klitschko and plenty of big guys of today. And he would have room to grow even bigger today!
     
  3. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'd say "another fail for the Hturd", but really, you've only strengthened my points, so I guess I should really say thank you.
     
  4. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Hturd, I gotta go for today, but I'll check back in the morning. I'm hoping when I check back in you'll have even more helpful points that "destroy" me, i.e. help prove my point to anyone with any rational capacity.
    Also, you love popular opinion so much, take a look at the poll results. I wasn't expecting much when I put it up, it seems like Ali is unassailable, but right now 50% of people say Ali would have at least a much harder time than he did in his era. Not really expecting it to last, but glad to see there are a good number of reasonable people out there.
     
  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    :lol::lol:
     
  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    s0 are saying none of these guys ali fought on the way up were contenders? why you saying that, he got in position by way of facing them for the hw title. Surely Doug Jones and old Archie Moore arent enough to land you a world title shot on their own? - see..why u lying man? u must know u are lying surely??


    Andrew - why you denying the truth of the post and trying to replace it with your lies? 38% were around his size. try answering not running from what I write.


    most wouldn't say that, including vitali, they'd say the same as me, he rarely dominated,playing 2nd fiddle to wlad for starters. But you know this - why u running and lying?



    I am talking about your post content, you not noticed that? - so if you have...why you commenting on mine..its yours that's the issue.
    Also...why is my post content gibberish ONLY WHEN U NEED TO RUN FROM IT?
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    lol
     
  8. RememberingC.S.

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    He couldn't even enter the top 10. You just have to look at his fights on youtube, entire ones, not just 5 seconds montages where he's grabbing the ropes and randomly shaking his head and the opponent looks like he isn't sure of what he's supposed to do.

    Low activity, all arm punches, always out of balance, wide open, stationary for most of the time, and put down by a scrawny looking 185 lbs boxer.

    Any top 10 today stops him with the first punches
     
  9. RememberingC.S.

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    At 214 lbs, and he has the body fat percentage of Dereck Chisora. Yet Dereck Chisora is called a fatass.

    If anything, he'd be smaller today. because

    1 height is genetics, you have what you have

    2 He couldn't inject horse-grade testosterone doses, because in his time periods there was no such thing as doping tests, but today there are
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That's factually incorrect. Environmental and nutritional factors can each play significant roles.

    Yep! Nobody doping in boxing today.

    :smoke
     
  11. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    So what's your opinion on relics from Alis era like Foreman and Holmes winning belts in the 90s?
     
  12. RememberingC.S.

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    The ungodly advantage Klitshko detractors base his entire reign on
     
  13. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Because they're idiots.
     
  14. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Nobody since Ali could float so gracefully around the ring. You needed a supreme level of balance and coordination to do what Ali did.
     
  15. RememberingC.S.

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    Ah, but that's assuming that Ali didn't reach his optimal height because of nutritional deficiences. Which he didn't, because America was by far the wealthiest country in the world in those times, and Ali never suffered food deprivation (far from it, he always struggled to keep weight down according to himself)

    If anything, it's in countries like eastern europe (and at those times, even western one) that you lilely didn't develop optimally due to the scarcity of proteins in the diet. Oh and the whole rest of the world, too. Africa, Asia, Oceania.


    That's not the point. The point is that they were doing it already back then, and with no regulation. So they wouldn't be bigger today, if anything smaller for fear of getting caught.