Rate the following fighters using these criterias.

I saw something on coxscorner and was very interested. I want to do something very similar here and want to see what you guys think.

The fighters are:

Muhammad Ali

Larry Holmes

Sonny Liston

Joe Louis

George Foreman

Joe Frazier

Evander Holyfield

Jack Dempsey

Rocky Marciano

Mike Tyson

Lennox Lewis

The following categories they are being ranked in are:

Power

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy

Footwork

Defense

Durability

Heart

Killer instinct

Endurance

Ring Generalship.

The Rating Scale (from Coxscorner)

Each fighter is ranked on the chart on a ten- point system. 5 is the standard rating, 5 represents the average heavyweight skill level in any given category. 10 points is considered a Superior rating, and 1 would be Non-existent. The rating for each fighter is determined by an examination of their skills when at their peak as a champion.

1- Non-Existent
2- Poor
3- Fair
4- Below Average
5 –Average
6- Above Average
7- Good/Solid
8- Very Good
9- Excellent
10-Superior/ the best or among the best

 

Muhammad Ali:

Power: 5

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 10

Footwork: 10

Defense: 8

Durability: 10

Heart: 10

Killer instinct: 5

Endurance: 10

Ring Generalship: 8

 

Larry Holmes:


Power: 6

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 9

Footwork: 7

Defense: 8

Durability: 8

Heart: 10

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 9

Ring Generalship: 9

 

Sonny Liston:


Power: 9

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 6

Footwork: 5

Defense: 8

Durability: 7

Heart: 7

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 9

Ring Generalship: 9

 

Joe Louis:

Power: 7

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 10

Footwork: 5

Defense: 7

Durability: 6

Heart: 9

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 9

Ring Generalship: 10






George Foreman

Power: 10

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 7

Footwork: 7

Defense: 2

Durability: 9

Heart: 9

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 5

Ring Generalship: 5







Joe Frazier

Power: 6

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 7

Footwork: 7

Defense: 7

Durability: 6

Heart: 10

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 10

Ring Generalship: 5

 

Evander Holyfield:

Power: 7

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 9

Footwork: 8

Defense: 6

Durability: 8

Heart: 10

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 10

Ring Generalship: 7




Jack Dempsey

Power: 7

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 8

Footwork: 7

Defense: 5

Durability: 6

Heart: 8

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 7

Ring Generalship: 5





Rocky Marciano

Power: 7

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 5

Footwork: 5

Defense: 7

Durability: 8

Heart: 10

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 10

Ring Generalship: 5

 

Mike Tyson

Power: 9

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 10

Footwork: 8

Defense: 9

Durability: 8

Heart: 7

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 8

Ring Generalship: 8




Lennox Lewis

Power: 10

Hand speed/combination punching/accuracy: 7

Footwork: 6

Defense: 7

Durability: 4

Heart: 8

Killer instinct: 10

Endurance: 5

Ring Generalship: 9

 

I think his power is more of a 7. He was no heavy hitter but if you look back at his pre exile fights, he stops fighters when throwing just a couple of punches as well as knocking out Liston.

 

His inability to drop Lyle after hitting him with 40 unanswered punches is telling. He had fair pop, could hurt a guy badly with a counter but nothing special.

 

I figured he would get a 7.

 

Jack Dempsey

Power: 10

Hand Speed: 8

Footwork: 8

Defense: 7

Durability: 10

Heart: 8 (because he took a dive against Fireman Jim Flynn)

Killer Instinct: 10

Endurance: 10

Ring Generalship: 7


Rocky Marciano

Power: 10

Hand Speed: 5

Footwork: 4

Defense: 7

Durability: 10

Heart: 10

Killer Instinct: 10

Endurance: 10

Ring Generalship: 1

 

Muhammad Ali

Power: 7.5

Hand speed/accuracy/combinations:10

Footwork: 10

Defense: 10

Durability: 10

Heart: 10

Killer instinct: 7

Endurance: 10

Ring generalship: 10

 

Yet he mysteriously happened to be the only man to stop Bonavena and Foreman.

 

Frazier rated a 6 in power?

:-(



And you overrated him a bit in killer instinct.

He was a guy who backed off Bugner in the 10th and let him slowly fall when he could have followed up big time. Do you think someone like Marciano or Foreman would have held up in that situation?

 

This is a guy who thinks Ruddock "hit harder than anyone Frazier faced, including Foreman." I wouldn't take anything he says to seriously.

That was a washed up Frazier. Imagine prime Frazier in that situation.