Life and death is an inaccurate representation of that fight. Klitschko whipped him. The only thing that made that fight competitive was the knockdowns - 2 of which were illegal, one which was balance-based. Sure, he clinched a lot in that fight, and he does it in general. So did Muhammad Ali and Jack Johnson. Holyfield used his head as a third fist. Tyson followed up with elbows and hit after the bell. Bowe was about as dirty as it gets. Holmes was the master of the thumb. Every champion fouls, Klitschko is no exception. Fouling did not allow him to dominate a decades worth of top heavyweights. If it was as easy as jabbing and grabbing, then Julius Long would have been the champion. It's about time you start appreciating Wlads game, Dino.
I think you're selling him a tad short by saying he doesn't have great level of boxing skill. You'd be hard pressed to find any boxing expert, ****yst, trainer, etc, who would deny that he has one of the best jabs in history to go along with an excellent right hand and decent defensive skills. I agree with the critics who say that he lacks in the durability department and uses excessive holding tactics. But these things don't mean that he didn't have great skill in some areas. That said I agree that top five is too high. But I have him at number nine. putting thirty heavyweights ahead of him however is a tad unreasonable.
Wlad's reign was *nowhere near* 10 years. Sell that snake oil somewhere else. Like I said, sell that snake oil somewhere else. LOL. Only on Planet Klitschko Yes it does. KO loses to the modern "Murderer's Row" of Ross Purrity, Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster. lmao... Ha ha. NO. Only on Planet Klitschko. Wlad was 40-1 going into the Sanders fight and had been a professional for 7 years. Only you Klitschko nut gulpers ignore the fact that Wlad was a *seasoned professional* by the time he had the meltdown for Sanders and Brewster. And lets not forget that Wlad was trained by Steward for the Brewster meltdown. Like I said, sell that snake oil somewhere else....
No , its pinpoint accurate. wlad ran and held on like his life depended on it. the 3rd knock down was a result of a flush shot on the chin. a balance issue had nothing to due with hit. wlad had a sam peter issue. lederman was calling for wlad to be dq'd the fact is both guys showed a pathetic level of skills. watch holmes defuse shaves - a far better , quicker , fitter version of peter. compare the two performances . wlad in both peter fights was as good as he got. brewster was a step above peter and look what happened there. he got demolished in only 5 rounds. wlad wasn't holding fraziers and foremans. he was holding sam peters , mormecks, tony thompsons , david hayes etc etc. you argument is moot. and none of them used illegal clinching as an offensive tool like wlad done. complete non stop fouling is what won him the povetkin fight. when his skills went up against the era's best that is what you got. the worst foul infest cheat fest ever produced. how can you rank him s the 5th greatest hw to ever live when that showing of non boxing was his best effort? you have a lot to learn about this sport. i suggest you quit posting and come back next year.
ive seen c - level nobodies upstage his best efforts against the same opposition. these realities are all you have to go on. take his holding away and you expose him.
:deal Wlad landed ONE punch of any real significance in the whole of the fight. IIRC, it was a big right hand he landed flush on Peter's chin in the 11th or 12th. Other than that, Wlad spent the night doing his best deer-n-headlights impersonation. Holding this fight up as some kind of outstanding accomplishment on Wlad's part only demonstrates the lengths to which Klitschko nut gulpers will go in order to prop up their hero in the exercise of their delusion. Fact is, Wlad's performance in the Peter fight was SHAMEFUL - and that's being generous. It was a performance that would have made Henry Akinwande blush. Lol. If Sam Peter had any clue of how to throw a straight punch, Klitschko would have gotten KO'ed...
he won using that exact performance right up till he met fury and fury was good enough to completely nullify it . wlad getting shut out and resorting to head butts was the result. gets shut out by fury = top 5 of all time :nut
Wlad's "skill" was certianly put on display for the WHOLE world to see during the Fury fight. That clinching clinic he put on was the stuff of legend. LMAO...
And I don't know too many "legends" who at the near age of 40 with almost 70 fights of mileage would have done much better against a 25 year old 6'9" 250 lb undefeated giant. But I guess we can all use our imagination.
Wlad had about 30 fights vs euro weight lifters before he came into high level contention . he was a fresh 39 y/o . about 34 in boxing years. lewis and ali were further down the road when they come through against vitali and foreman. vitali and foreman
Larry Holmes could come out of retirement *right now* in his late 60s and take Fury to SCHOOL. Lol...
Sorry but I'm not buying this. the man had 70 fights of mileage behind him even you don't think his opponents were worth anything and he was still just a few months away from hitting 40. I totally get it that you think he's shlt. But to go as far as to spin things to where the man doesn't even have the right to age is pretty transparently biased.
And we can put the same spin on Holmes going life and death with an aged Norton who Scott Ledoux made look pretty unimpressive. Or Larry struggling against 15 fight versions of Williams and Witherspoon who many thought beat him. Or losing altogether to a light heavy weight who was in his first bout ever at heavy and while Holmes was still four years younger than Wlad was when he lost to a super heavy in Fury.. For the record I rank Holmes much higher than wlad and realize that there's more to this argument. But this "c" level opposition thing works both ways.
