Fighters copy the Shoulder Roll but how many can copy the Peek-a-Boo?!

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  1. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    https://youtu.be/C187XVrOuFo

    Cus D'Amato was possibly the worlds greatest boxing trainer ever. He trained Buster Mathis, Jose Torres, Floyd Patterson and most famously Mike Tyson. All becoming champions that he had to build from scratch or re-train all together.

    tHE Peek a Boo style was trained on a "Willie Bag" https://youtu.be/wPiHJ31l9No which consisted of a numbered puch system and a style Cus named "Bad Intentions".


    Young fighters, mostly all Black to be honest, want to copy the Shoulder style of the Mayweathers, but what about Peek-a-boo. It would take a very discipline fighter and trainer to pull the style off properly. It takes a lot of energy, concentration, and stamina that new fighters lack.

    With fighter being more spoiled and hand fed opponents, it will take true poverty to drive a fighter to train in this style. It takes true hunger and focus. Too bad there aren't any fighters on the cusp that use this style. Maidana was the closes it got.
     
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  2. Cafe

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    In terms of pros? Rakhim Chakhkiev had a Tyson-esque style. I mean you could tell he was fanboying him big time. :lol:
     
  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    George Arias (the young one) kind of employs something similar too.
     
  4. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Lomachenko does a little peek-a-boo
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Who is the last elite fighter that used it consistently? Like, for most of the duration of the majority of their bouts?

    Winky?
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Arthur Abraham does it pretty well, like the whole fight, non stop, so much so he barely throws any punches at this point.:lol:
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ^

    ...or, I suppose if you consider Josh Clottey elite. :conf
     
  8. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Just think of the short guys for their divisions, there's bound to be more.
     
  9. Doc Everlast

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    Floyd used it against Mosley.
     
  10. CST80

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    Avtandil Khurtsidze:bbb
     
  11. Slavic Fighter

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    You're comparing apples and oranges here. Shoulder roll is a defensive technique, peek-a-boo is a boxing style of its own.

    Should roll could be used by any boxer regardless of his height/reach relative to his weight while peek-a-boo is a specific boxing style for shorter fighters.

    Peek-a-boo is used to get inside someone's range, it's an offensive aggressive fighting strategy.

    It worked for Mike Tyson because he had specific physical attributes, he was an explosive fighter, a very short heavyweight with short reach and powerful punches. He also had powerful legs which is important too because if you want to perform peek-a-boo correctly you need to squat a lot to bob and weave. It can be taxing for one's knees and it can wear you down quickly.

    To give an extreme example, a boxer like say Wilder simply can't use the peek-a-boo style.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Both are techniques and both can be the centerpieces of a style.
     
  13. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Amir Mansour?

    I don't really like the fighting style. I feel it can only have consistent success if the boxer has devastating power, but if the fighter using the peek-a-boo style faces someone who can take the punch and boxes fairly well, then they'll be at a big disadvantage.
     
  14. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't want to argue about definitions but shoulder roll is a very basic and natural technique in boxing, it can be incorporated into many styles and can be used by any boxer regardless of his height and reach.

    Cus D'Amato's peek-a-boo is much more specific, call it a technique or style or whatever. It only works good for fighters with specific physical attributes.

    The problem is that people associate the shoulder roll with Mayweather too much and when they say shoulder roll they in fact mean Mayweather's style, but in reality shoulder roll is a very basic boxing thing and that's why so many fighters employ it.
     
  15. CST80

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    At times and depending on his opponent David Lemieux.