Fighters copy the Shoulder Roll but how many can copy the Peek-a-Boo?!

I kinda agree with Slav, when I think of peek-a-boo I think of more than just high guard to be honest, for me it's that Tyson style with a wide stance and lots of head movement.

 

The way I was taught it, it is a specific style. The offense and defense were all specific to that style. Peek-a-boo isn't just used sporadically in a fight.

Not many fighters use it today (and maybe for good reason). I can only think specifically Mike Tyson. I don't think it's a good style to use unless you have lights out power.

It's hard to establish range. You stand squared up, so you're a much larger target and due to that, most punches end up telegraphed. I could go on. I hated it.

 

I agree with is. Also, one has to have the mental makeup to employ the peek a boo. Alot of these cautious, hit and not be hit type of guys just do not like contact. That would prevent someone from using this style successfully.

 

Tyson's use of the peek a boo, was also his defense. That iconic tight guard was perfect as you said for Tyson. The peek a boo is also the guard you need to go into and out of the demspey roll. Tyson's defense is so underrated its criminal.


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No Cus, no right hand early on, and 3rd world conditions would have made it hard. He had the tree trunks for it though. For Tyson to be as successful as he was, we have to put into context that Tyson was groomed and brought up into the style as a way of life. While Pac was boxing to make money in order to feed his family. I dunno, maybe if Pac had a whole other different upbringing it might be possible.

 

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^^That is great, love it. I like Mike Tyson!!

 

The guard is easily reproduced, as people have Mentioned Winky, AA etc have used the guard effectively.

But Tyson was the most complete Peek-a-Boo fighter we've ever seen, he had more than just the high guard and awareness. What Tyson did was physically very hard, he was often in a half crouch, bending at the knees and keeping the centre of gravity low, which gave him the base for all that head and upper body movement we don't see from guys like Winky and AA.

This low crouch is physically very demanding which is why nobody has effectively reproduced it since, it's also why Tyson declined so quickly, if you are not 100% fit you tire quickly due to how demanding it is and can't hold the stance required and you compromise your defence. Tyson in his prime was a very underrated counter puncher, he would come forward weaving and look to make you miss and counter. Defence for him was also offence.

 

The best fighters incorporate all the techniques. Shoulder roll, high guard, fencing guard etc. Play on the opponents weaknesses.

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I find the shoulder roll can be modified to fit most if not all types of boxers/fighter's "style".

It just has to be tweaked a bit to suite your approach to the sweet science.

I mean it might not be exactly how Floyd Mayweather or James Toney would use it...

But it can be successfully incorporated into your defense.

Myself and the guys in my gym sometimes use the shoulder roll in sparring... however most of us still maintain that fundamental high guard regardless if we use it or not.. very rarely do you see someone with their lead hand down like Floyd lol.. you gotta be very confident + competent to do that against a highly skilled/experienced partner..

In regards to the peek a boo stance... I don't see it too often. If ever. I mean sure occasionally you see a guy attempt it in the gym but... it's not really the peek a boo.
Maybe its cause nobody in my club really has a working knowledge of how it works or it's purpose. Nor were they taught under the Cus D'mato school of thought lol.

Peek a boo stance looks like it will take a very very long time to even come close to mastering. It also looks like it was meant for shorter, stockier fighter types. And as well it does not look friendly on the legs and lower back long term wise.

I mean ^ even normal bobbing, weaving and slipping can be a bit taxing on your back... thus why we stretch and have rest days lol.
Allows your body to heal and recover properly.

I can only imagine what crouching and slipping like Mike Tyson for even a few years will do to your lower back and torso...