Marciano v Kovalev

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  1. BCS8

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    I think the consensus is that Kovalev loses. In fact, I don't see anybody who favours him or even calls it a 50-50 match.

    However, we have seen what Kovalev is about. He has great power, is accurate and is an excellent boxer to boot. He has demonstrated a solid beard. His record is impeccable and he has beaten some solid fighters with ease. Some others have pointed out that after rehydrating Sergei and Marciano have almost the same fighting weight.

    The only silly person here is you, thinking that he has zero chance to outpoint Marciano over a shorter distance, when boxer-punchers have given Rocky a hard time irl.

    Try being a little objective.
     
  2. BCS8

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    This is actually a pretty intriguing matchup.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Marciano was 5'10.5" tall with a 68" reach.
    Kovalev is 6' tall with a 72.5" reach
    The weight difference would be negligible.
    Spot the difference between this and a Golovkin matchup?
     
  4. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Weight and height are meaningless here. Nobody knows if Kovalev can even take a good LT hwts punch let alone the blows from Marciano. No one knows if Kovalev will cave when tested. We know what Marciano could do.
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    We know Marciano was floored by a 39years old ex hvy,is it beyond the realms of possibility that Kovalev could duplicate that feat?
     
  6. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And this means exactly what? NOTHING.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    It means Marciano could be floored in this match does it not ?
     
  8. BCS8

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    He could but I doubt it. I suspect that Kovalev would fight off the back foot, play distance games and try counter when Marciano comes in. I think he'd do fairly well for a while, until Marciano caught him with a big one or the inevitable damage started to degrade Kova's fighting ability.
     
  9. mcvey

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    I'm not sold on Kovalev , but he appears more mobile than Lastarza , and he has some power, he might hang around for a while.
     
  10. Rumsfeld

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    Regardless, my point still stands.

    :smoke
     
  11. mcvey

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    With you perhaps.
    177&180lbs Ted Lowry went the distance twice with Marciano ,some thought he won the first fight including the local press which were on Rocky's turf.
    Accounts say that Lowry had Rocky in some difficulty and Lowry could not hit like Kovalev.

    "It was Lowry, not Marciano, who was on the verge of scoring an early knockout, stinging Marciano with two terrific rights in the first round and then rocking him with two mighty uppercuts in the second. By the fourth, a staggered Marciano seemed just one punch away from being knocked out. But then, inexplicably, Lowry stopped fighting and retreated into a shell despite warnings from the referee to open up and a cascade of boos from the crowd. To many, it appeared that Lowry was deliberately carrying Marciano. Was foul play afoot? Was Lowry getting paid to lose? Or was he merely tiring? Whatever the reason, a revived Marciano managed to rally in the late rounds even though many of his punches missed their mark or lacked force. On the basis of his aggressiveness and constant punching, Marciano won a unanimous decision from the judges. Most observers felt, however, that Lowry should have won."
    Lowry, who earned $2,500 for the fight, denied he threw the fight. "I beat Rocky that night and that’s it," he said. "He changed his strategy in the fifth round and made a fight of it, but I won two of the last six rounds after winning the first four. It was a hometown decision."

    I don't think your point is valid at all.
     
  12. Rumsfeld

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    You don't think some people would consider Golovkin as someone who seriously has a "live chance" against Marciano?

    I'm pretty sure I've actually seen that happen over in the General.

    :smoke
     
  13. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kovalev is an untested LT heavyweight. Let's see him in a tough bout against a LT hwt before putting him in with an ATG hwt champion. Marciano would put him in the hospital.
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Interesting...Any thoughts, Perry? This is a point that could benefit from some of your usual nuanced, well-considered commentary.
     
  15. reznick

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    This is a really interesting report! Did Marciano have other reportedly close decisions like this on his way up? Or was this the only one?

    I guess ever great boxer had that bad day.