Where does JL Sullivan rank as a HW ATG

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    About how I see it.

    Sullivan had great right-hand power, good hand speed, and was game. Testimonials will tell you this. So you could say he has a puncher's chance.

    His skills I think would be crude by the standards of today, and defensively he'd rate as a tough man. His resume of A wins is rather thin.

    Best rated as a legand in his time who made the sport popular.
     
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  2. Kill CST

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    Come and meet me I'm out in Connemara at the moment son

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  3. latineg

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    In each others asses you mean?
     
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  4. SmackDaBum

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    This is no H2H list. Otherwise Tyson Fury's the one!
     
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  5. SmackDaBum

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    Just as the difference with Ali and Klitschko...
     
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  6. Outstock

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    Yeah , with klitschko being the devolved and regressed heavy weight
     
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  7. ki_ote

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    Half these guys today would cry like babies if they had all those fights bare knuckle. Floyd would be one and done. Calzaghe one and done. It would be a different story today without gloves.

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  8. SmackDaBum

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    No.

    201 pounds lean vs 245 pounds lean...

    It's the same weight difference as Amir Kahn and Kovalev...

    I pick the bigger guy in both cases... Safe bet...
     
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  9. Slavic Fighter

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    Can't really blame them since fighting bare knuckle is horrible for your hands. Mike Tyson threw one punch and broke his hand against Mitch Green in that famous street fight.

    Floyd would actually have the least problems with it since he'd still be able to win on points with his weak pot shots provided the fight is under modern rules.
     
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  10. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    This!

    Many of the heavyweights today are of course yes bigger, but the previous Eras are light years more talented. Lost arts we shall call it. Many of today's big men gravitate from other sports and just get by on size and athletism.. Those cats from the 70's were polished fighters. Guys like Frazier would walk right thru guys like Wilder!!
     
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  11. SmackDaBum

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    I pick Wilder over Frazier.

    5''9 vs 6''7 ...
     
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  12. Outstock

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    210lbs Haye vs 310 Valeuv. haye 12MD Val.

    215lbs Ali RECK klischko.
     
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  13. Slavic Fighter

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    Modern fighters are way more talented. Frazier only had good left hook
     
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  14. Slavic Fighter

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    Valuev would kill Ali
     
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  15. Outstock

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    so david haye was better than ali?
     
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