The way Pacman was outclassed by Floyd, did people drop him from their ATG top 10?

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I assume it's a consensus view now that Pacman has no business whatsoever in any top 10 ATG list? The fight vs. Floyd wasn't even close and he looked a level or two below Floyd. Assuming Floyd is top 5 material, how could anyone argue Pac is in the top 10 at all?
     
  2. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Yes. Which proves that people were bandwagon fans just along for the ride. I really hope Manny got his money out of all those fake ass busters.

    All people really care about is Floyd Mayweather, which is now why they ride GGG's coattail and try to get Floyd to fight him at some weight drained 154.
     
  3. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Why would anyone assume that Mayweather is top 5 material?
     
  4. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    even mayweather doesn't make the welter weight top 10 and he won
     
  5. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Absolutely not.
    This is a former light flyweight 36 year old ring age-ancient past-prime semi-shot hospital patient with a torn rotator cuff, psychologically shot after his KO losses, welterweight 2015 version of Pacquiao.
    Pacquiao was never meant to even be competitive at 147lbs. He did what no other did, rise 10 weight classes since turning pro, welterweight being his 9th
    Mayweather should have KO'd Pacquiao. It instead was a close, boring, low output fight (one certainly won by Mayweather, though). Moreover, Mayweather is said to have cheated with PED's.
     
  6. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Catch .22

    If he had of knocked him out like Marquez, people would accuse him of being on steriods like they did Marquez.

    For some reason Pacquiao of unfallable in the eyes of many people.:huh
     
  7. maguswarlock

    maguswarlock Active Member Full Member

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    fluid sure showed pac how to pitty pat punch, run and hug, and kitty kat scratch. fluid also taught a lesson in how to take peds, mask it with 750ml iv, and lie about it (albeit not very well - dehydrated my ****)

    one armed injured pac schooled fluid in boxing. xylocaine ped pumped fluid got gifted a decision. thats how history will eventually see it.
     
  8. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    There is no catch 22. Marquez looked suspicious, not because he KO'd Pacquiao with a punch that he genuinely trained for in training camp, but rather Marquez looked like he had a roid gut, teamed up with Heredia and all of a sudden breaks out with bacne which he never had before. His physique also looked very different.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Does Duran drop out of the top 10 because Hearns so easily beat him? Or perhaps the loss to someone like Kirkland Laing? Or perhaps how he quit against Leonard?

    Great fighters someone times lose, especially when facing another great fighter. I always thought Mayweather would win, he is simply too good, even for Pac and was the perfect foil for Pac's style.

    Also let's not pretend Pac was prime. Mayweather was past his best as well but Pac had declined more, had they fought a few years before I think it would of been more competitive, Pac would of still lost but he would of made a better fight of it.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It's why there is no point in viewing an athletes' place in history until after they have retired.
     
  11. miguelj

    miguelj Champ Full Member

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    Let's stop with your hypothetical scenarios. The keyword here is "if." May trained differently for that fight and Floyd fans were saying he'd knock out Pac but why didn't he? If Marquez was able to do it then why couldn't May?
    His training of chopping woods were all for nothing since he still fought scared. It was clear that Pac wasn't his usual self in that fight but why didn't May take advantage of that?
     
  12. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    majority of americans think floyd won easy...the rest of the world thinks otherwise...

    pac beat floyd at his own game...too bad vegas judges is in floyd's pocket...
     
  13. DeadLikeMe

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    If Pacquiao said the moon was made of cheese, the stans would be spamming boxing websites with moon landing conspiracy videos.
     
  14. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Get off the sauce, kid.

    Beat Floyd at his own game by winning 2 rounds and losing 10? :roll:
     
  15. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    that was no master class. floyd ran and pot shot all night