Is Manny The Best Southpaw Of All Time?

Pacquiao has a nonexistant jab and a terrible stance. He's arguably the #3 P4P southpaw OAT behind Hagler. H2H I'd put him at #4 behind Whitaker and Hagler. Imagine if he learned to shoulder roll and counter with a left uppercut (my favorite punch, hence the username). He'd actually be dangerous on the inside.
I am the Greatest Southpaw of All Time.

 

I'd counter you to death! :deal

 

If they had a battle royale, Corrie Sanders would win.


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He one punch finished 3K battery with the left uppercut. He threw jabs, he didn't have a particularly stiff jab, but it was accurate and would blind the opposing fighter to set up his straight left, the money punch.

His stance isn't that bad. It allowed him to square up his shoulders and trade power shots. He didn't try to outpoint you. That wasn't his style.

 

He would bring his left hand down every time that he would "jab" (actually, he does this with every punch). His square stance made him very open to orthodox fighters' jabs (a southpaw should never be open to that) and forced his shoulder to be farther away from his opponent. That means that his "jab" took significantly more time to land than someone in a bladed stance. Poor technique. Maybe I am being a little harsh, but the jab is a basic technique and he's not good at it.

 

If you want to bang you have to give up some optimal defense and point scoring ability. Pacquiao had no intentions of stealing rounds or nicking rounds by a slight margin. He went in there looking to knock out the opponent and cause pain.

Which meant squaring up the shoulders and throwing the jab at the eye to blind his opponent and follow up with the left. It worked very well actually.

 

Even if he really wanted to bang he could've learned to angle his stance like McCallum or Henry Armstrong. I think that it was more about his limitations than his mindset.

 

In his prime he featured lots of head movement to compensate. If you watch the first Barrera and Marquez fights you will Pacquiao using an almost absurd amount of head movement and upper body movement. Coupled with his in and out movement he was constantly moving.

It's not like he was a statue walking straight in with a square stance. He just didn't want to sacrifice any opportunity to throw power shots.

It's possible that he was unable to be effective in any other stance, but he did what he did pretty well.

 

...Manny stole a whole bunch of rounds from Bradley with last minute flurries.


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not really making an opinion here....but where do you posters put lew tendler on a list of southpaws ?

 

Pacquiao fights well against movers. The hardest style for him stylistically is the high stamina and good chinned fighters who are hard to break down through attrition.

 

Rigo would totally outclass him. Manny wasn't that good at 122 and lower. I would say worse than Donaire.

 

The hardest style for him is Mayweather. You just described Clottey and Margarito.

 

I don't know. Mayweather ducked Manny. Ledwaba was slick and fast but crumbled.

 

Mayweather ducked Pacqiao?

What happened on May 2nd?