How would boxing look like in a UFC-style format? Who would be the current champions?

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  1. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A lot of people are complaining about the state of current boxing, the politics, the paper belts, the catchweights, ducking and fights not getting made. For this reason a lot of people wish boxing would have a similar format to UFC. All the elite fighters under one promotion/organization, less weightclasses and top guys basically forced to fight each other all the time.

    How would the landscape of boxing look like if we had this sort of format? Who would be the champions and top contenders in each division?

    UFC has 8 weightclasses, or 9 if you include the strawweight 115lbs division which is currently only for women but in male boxing this weightclass would have some talent depth. UFC weightclasses are 265, 205, 185, 170, 155, 145, 135, 125, 115.

    You could also assume that boxing-style UFC would have more boxing-like weightclasses so you can also use the oldest 8 weightclasses in boxing + cruiserweight if you want. 200+, 200, 175, 160, 147, 135, 126, 118, 112.

    The more I think about it the more I like the idea of having less weightclasses, the divisions would be more stacked and that catchweight A-side/B-side draining wouldn't exist. Just imagine the stacked cards boxing would be able to deliver monthly. Only 9 undisputed champs and that's it.

    IMO the champs would be

    200+ Wlad/Fury.. Joshua, Wilder, Ortiz and Povetkin would fight for the next title shot

    200 Let's say Glowacki.. although Usyk would probably be in the title picture already

    175 Kovalev.. after beating Stevenson and Ward. DeGale would fight in this division too.

    160 GGG... all of those fighters who're ducking him now demolished.. Abraham and Sturm would have nowhere to run and would fight him at 160, as would Canelo and Lara. Canelo probably wouldn't break top 5 in this division.

    147 Hard to say, this division would be absolutely stacked with a lot of current super lightweights fighting here too

    135 ???
    126 Loma? Rigo?
    118 ?
    112 ?

    Don't really follow the lower classes that much, can't say how those fighters would rearrange if there were fewer weightclasses.
     
  2. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If boxing had UFC-style weight classes and this format it would be

    265 Wlad/Fury
    185 Kovalev
    170 Ward
    155 GGG
     
  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Better of course, no promotional splits, so a lot easier to make the fights, no gajillion belts and fake hometown "champions". As for the weightclasses, I think that's too little honestly, though currently boxing may also have too many, if it was up to me, I'd probably have 11-13 weightclasses or so with the weights rearranged and same day weigh ins/rehydration limits or something of the sort.
     
  4. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    The downside is though, while the fans may be better off, the fighters may not be when everything is monoplized.
     
  5. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh no you di'n't :nono
     
  6. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't see why we wouldn't have 9 weigthclasses like the UFC. I never understood why boxing needs so many weigthclasses bellow 160 and with all the catchweights it all looks like a joke. Also Manny's 8 division title ****, if one fighter can change so many weightclasses it tells you all you need to now, regardless of his talent. Hell even Broner was champ in 4 divisions, it's a joke.

    168 is arguably redundant too, those fighters could easily be either at 160 or 175. Or split the weight classes 185, 170 and 155 like in the UFC.
     
  7. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    GGG would fight in 155 in UFC-style weightclasses, he's a small MW. It sounds funny because of the current Canelo situation but that's how it is, GGG said they're both the same weight.

    Then he could go at 170 for a superfight with Ward like Conor tried in the UFC.

    Kovalev would be at 185 though fighting Huck.
     
  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    There's almost as many fighters in Welterweight as in all of MMA. Of course, there are going to be fewer weight classes and their top guys are going to fight each other. There aren't enough bodies to fill the nine divisions they have.

    Besides, what you are talking about is a monopoly. It works for the UFC because the talent pool is so small in mma, and the only places their game is played is in the US and Brazil. You can't monopolize a worldwide sport like Boxing that has 17,500 professionals spread over 196 countries like you can a sport which is in 2 countries and only has 2,500 participants.

    Also, did you ever think that maybe their top guys fought each other because they had to? Because their divisions are wastelands which lack any depth of talent? That there were only one or two guys who could actually fight in each division?
     
  9. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    265- Tyson Fury
    205- Usyk
    185- Whichever Cruiserweight/Light Heavyweight feels comfortable at this weight. Either Kovalev/Drozd/Glowacki
    170- Ward
    155- Canelo... Don't think GGG fits too well at 155. He can try 170 but gets beat by Ward.
    145- Errol Spence/Crawford
    135- Mikey Garcia.. no reason for contract disputes seeing as how UFC has one universal promoter.
    125- Lomachenko
    115= women's division
     
  10. Zerstoren

    Zerstoren Member Full Member

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    200+: Fury (Joshua isn't ready to deal with him yet)

    200: Glowacki (hard to say how Usyk would do against him)

    175: Kovalev (or Ward....tough to call that one)

    160: GGG (Alvarez can't duck him)

    147: Crawford (he beats Brook, Thurman, and Bradley)

    135: Mikey Garcia (no contract disputes)

    126: Lomachenko (no ducking)

    118: Rigondeaux or Inoue (Rigo can make 118 no problem)

    112: Roman Gonzalez
     
  11. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah because in MMA 115 male talent pool is non-existent. But boxing version of UFC would definitely have that male division, plenty of talent to fill it.
     
  12. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's a small MW, he could definitely make that cut and still be efficient.
     
  13. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not so sure about Fury. In an UFC-style format he'd have to go through all the decent contenders or at least beat most of them. I can see someone like Povetkin or Ortiz derailing him.

    IMO Wilder, Ortiz, Joshua and Fury would be eliminating each other while Klitschko would rematch Haye and Povetkin. One of those 4 would eventually get the title shot next but I don't think it would be Fury. I just don't see him proven enough to believe that yet.

    Povetkin would probably be like JDS in the UFC, losing to the champ (Cain / Klitschko) but beating all the new contenders.

    On the other hand Fury might talk his way to a title shot like Conor did in the UFC and the owners of the promotion cherrypick the opponents for him.
     
  14. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do you think Floyd goes undefeated at 147 in such format? He'd have to fight prime Pacquiao and then rematch him at least twice, prime Margarito, Khan... I don't think any boxer would retire undefeated in UFC-style format. Too much competition, no ducking and constantly fighting the best would take its toll on fighters.
     
  15. Steve_Fox

    Steve_Fox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol 155 caneloweight