Joe Gallagher

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  1. Dibbs

    Dibbs Active Member Full Member

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    I think Borroso thought he would do a quick demolition job and once Crolla made him work, he folded like a pack of cards. If Mitchell had adapted the same tactics he would have beaten Borroso. At that pace, 5 rounds gone Borroso had nothing left.
     
  2. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone who doubts Gallagher is a good coach is simply being biased. He may have flaws like anyone else but to thank he doesn't know what his doing is laughable.
     
  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    So when his boxer wins, it was down to the trainer's great game plan and when they lose it was the boxer's fault?

    Joe Gallagher is a decent trainer with an excellent stable of fighters, but too much is made of game plans. Yes, a good coach will provide a framework with which to approach the fight but, in the end, it is the boxer who deals with the reality of what is happening in the ring.

    Joe's strategy for Crolla last night was a very basic one, getting him to stay in the pocket and absorb what was coming back until Barroso gassed. Joe's biggest achievement was getting Crolla to buy into this high risk approach, and I think it is the trust side of the coach/boxer relationship which means way more than anything else.

    In the end, it was Crolla in the ring taking those big shots, no one else. We should never give trainers too much praise or too much criticism. It's the guys with the gloves on that decides a fight.
     
  4. lencoreastside

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    Again we saw a jg boxer with zero head movement. Fair play to crolla...he toughed it out....but no way was that a master strategy. If barroso had paced himself better, picked his shots better....
     
  5. bbjc

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    Good post. The thing with joes fighters is they pretty much stick to joes game plan. To the point i think its joes way or the high way. In them circumstances joe should come in for a little bit more stick when he loses and a little bit more credit when he wins that other trainers who are maybe more up for bending.

    What my post was referring to was people blaming quiggs loss solely of joe and claiming he was a useless trainer. The truth was regardless how joe put quigg out there he would have struggled with frampton anyway due to the fact framptons just the better boxer. It was actually a decent enough game plan pretty much the only one that had a chance of being effective. Same with crolla last nite. I reckon if crolla tried to match him instead of outlasting him we would have got a different outcome
     
  6. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    It was Sky hype - he was ranked no.24 in the world.
     
  7. GencoA

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    Classy post this is eh.
     
  8. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    I see where you coming from regarding Joe and you're right of course. I think it's his ego which I find least appealing but it's also his ego which probably makes him a decent trainer. His utter self-confidence rubs off on his fighters. So yeah, he carries the can more than most. I do think he's been lucky with the pool of talent he has at his disposal at the moment. Let's see how he does when this lot are retired and he's working with a new stable. Longevity counts for a hell of a lot when judging the quality of a trainer.
     
  9. bbjc

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    For me joes good at what he does. Getting the very best of okay to good fighters. That is in comparison to the top guys. Its the next step he struggles with. But world class trainers arent ten a penny anyway.

    All his fighters are trained a similar way he doesnt change to much. Plus hes a pretty careful coach in terms of opponents he picks. Was sitting at something like 60 wins and no defeats at one run of wins i m sure. But if theres someone that you could trust to get the best out of pretty ordinary fighters its joe. Not everyones going to be freddie roach or whoever. I think he knows his stuff but hes still pretty inexperienced at the top level himself. He ll improves that aspect as he goes on. It ll probably be the next generation that gets the best of joe gallagher but hes doing no to bad atm for me. Although personally i thought it was the wrong gameplan for quigg. Big ppv fight. Grudge match. Quiggs got a decent ****nal. Holding back against frampton was a mistake but tbf to him i think frampton would have outboxed him even bettrr if quigg came out to fight.

    Whereas it was a great game plan for last nite. I dont think its a great game plan for quigg anyway...even tho it proved succesful against martinez. Think he made a mess of the draw quigg had also. Quiggs big for the weight. Great body shots etc. Hes needing to go down a differrnt route with him. More of how hatton fought. As in outwork and over power opponents.
     
  10. billy nelson

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    lets be perfectly honest Barosso was given way to much credit for stopping Kevin and people foolishly thought he could maintain that for 12 rounds, he couldn't.
    I can't see Anthony and Terry fight this year because assuming they are still champs next summer that's a stadium fight but both promoters will want it on there platform so I find it hard to see the fight ever happening
    Great performance from Anthony, too many people think a fight needs to be won in double quick time it doesn't 12 rounds is a long time Ito get it right
     
  11. billy nelson

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    For Eddie to say Barosso was the most dangerous opponent in the division was laughable, let's see how Barroso gets on in his next 2-3 fights against creditable opponents?
     
  12. likemike31

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    Credit where Credit it due.

    I think it's always weak to tear down an opponent afterwards, i.e bute, lacy.

    Gallagher did a great job. 5/1 the knock out last night couldn't help stick on at those odds
     
  13. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reminded me a bit like that guy burns fought billy gonzales Not in the way he fought or style but both came from no where and were very good just didnt have the tank too match it.

    Honestly thought that gonzales looked tremendous. But like you said its a twelve round fight at the end of the day.
     
  14. billy nelson

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    gonzalez was superior he punched hard, switched brilliantly, countered well but let himself down by not doing the weight correctly and ended up being weight drained and nothing left after round 7
     
  15. lencoreastside

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    😝 Ha ha.....,:)