Wilder should walk away from this fight, FFS POVETKIN IS JUICED UP TO THE GILLS

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    It seems extremely likely that he used it after it was banned. Why wouldn't his team inform Vada about using it? If a substance you took got banned in the last half year, wouldn't you want to inform VADA that you might test positive for some traces? Seems very suspicious to me. And please dont even try and pretend like you and the others defending Povetkin would not be saying the exact same things the Wilder fans/anti EE posters are saying.

    I want to see the fight more than anyone, but if you criticize Wilder for walking away you literally have to be bat **** crazy, a troll, or just some white power idiot.
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Nah.... I'd ditch Povetkin outright if he tested positive for an anabolic steroid or another long time banned substance. But there's no way you can prove that.... But no, I wouldn't drag him through the mud over this.. Because clearly there's more to this than most doping scandals. We don't know all the facts. Just that Povetkin tested positive for VERY low trace amounts of a substance that was banned just a couple of months ago. Maybe his team did inform VADA? Not all of the facts are out yet.


    Where's the objectivity from the Wilder crowd here? Most of you guys(when all of the facts aren't even out) are just running with this and using it to fuel your agenda. Heavy confirmation bias from the Wilder crowd. Should Povetkin be cleared of any wrongdoing would you still drag him through the mud?
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    His team clearly did not inform Vada. His team already made a statement about how Povetkin tested positive for a certain amount, they would have made it clear in that statement that they informed Vada before they took the test. Why wouldn't they make this clear? Common sense tells you that they did not inform Vada. Also wasn't the drug banned closer to half a year ago than a "couple months".

    Like you said, just like there are white power idiots on here, there are also anti white posters here too that might have an agenda. If it's proven that Povetkin notified Vada that there might be traces since he took the drug when it was legal, and there is proof that he did not take this drug after it was banned, then yes, his name should be cleared. But the truth is, it's not that you care about Povetkin really, your hatred for wilder is the reason you're defending him. I'm 100% positive that you and the other white power posters would not be defending Wilder if Wilder was the one who was caught.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Insult, race bait, insult... Can you make a post without doing that? I hereby challenge you to go 1,000 posts without doing that. Go!
     
  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I never insulted you, you might want to re-read what I wrote.
     
  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I'm 100% positive that you and the other white power posters would not be defending Wilder if Wilder was the one who was caught.
     
  7. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin glows in the dark he so toxic.:verysad
     
  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's not an insult. That's just telling the truth. Do you genuinely believe that the people who are giving Povetkin a pass and criticizing Wilder would defend Wilder if he was in that position?

    If you consider that an insult wouldn't you also consider what you said here an insutl too?
    "Where's the objectivity from the Wilder crowd here? Most of you guys(when all of the facts aren't even out) are just running with this and using it to fuel your agenda. "

    And also you insinuated that I insulted you twice. "insult, race baiting, insult", so what else did I say that was so insulting?
     
  9. PistolPat

    PistolPat Active Member Full Member

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    I rarely watch heavyweights fight these days, but this is one I don't want to miss god dammit.
     
  10. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Apparently the amount found in Mr.Povetkins is within the allowed limits of 1 microgram, and as such he has not failed the drug test. If this is true and the fight goes on as planned, MVC! should be put on suicide watch.
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Allowed limits when it was legal to use right? Correct me if I'm wrong, is it still legal to use a certain quantity?
     
  12. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Allowed limits as in the trace amounts being detectable are within 1 microgram, as traces of the drug stays in the system for a long time. It is not legal to still use a certain quantity, unless of course that quantity is in nanograms (and as such completely useless, unless you belive in homeopathy)
     
  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I guess the truth to you is asserting something ad nauseam, repeatedly stating that you think you're right and don't understand why the person in question won't agree with you.. And last but certainly not least hurl the race card their way.

    You know what you did.... Don't play dumb dude. :nono
     
  14. NaiKoN

    NaiKoN M Power! Full Member

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    Latest results were showing that this medicine could stay in blood for up to a year. WADA (not VADA) made statement that if the doping results are made after 1st of March, maximum allowed concentration is 1microgramm. They are still testing. The Russian and Estonian side are requesting proof that Meldonium has an effect of a PED, since WADA hasn't provided one yet. WADA made their decision based on acusation from one American laboratory. There might be a situation where Meldonium will be removed from banned substances, that is what an Estonian producing company is insisting. This medicine is available over the counter at any drug store without prescription, it is mainly used for heart muscle.
     
  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Wanted to give Povetkin the benefit of the doubt..... Looks like he probably used after the ban. Disappointed. :-(