Meldonium does NOT increase performance

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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Unlike steroids Meldonium does NOT increase performance, this drug created by a Latvian pharmaceutical company in the 1970's has shown NO performance enhancing qualities, yet the WADA's decision to ban it now seems more about politics (current geopolitical situation, see Syria/Ukrainian crisis/Russian intervention).

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...rts-wada-performance-enhancing-drug/82663156/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/sports/tennis/effects-of-meldonium-on-athletes-are-hazy.html

    Povetkin got caught with trace amounts of it, meaning it is insignificant. How is this drug anymore effective than traditional supplements and non-banned substances? How is the consumption of this drug simply NOT an act of the placebo effect?
     
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  2. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    No doubt Mirkof.

    Hey what about Luis Ortiz testing positive for anabolic steriods! Then HBO, the sanctioning bodies, and media pretending like it never happened and Ortiz gettin a paper belt title shot right away afterwards.
     
  3. globeman

    globeman Active Member Full Member

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    But its not just EE's who have used it.

    If it has no PED properties then why bother using it ? I know jack about PEDS but it might stack with other legal drugs that we currently arent aware of.
     
  4. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    There is no concrete evidence that it increases performance, it is all hypothetical, did you even read the links I propped up? It pretty much lays to waste your assertion. Also this drug might be removed from the banned list until USADA or the WADA provide CONCRETE evidence of it having attributes of an effective PED :deal
     
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  5. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The whole Meldonium circus is a mess. Before banning it VADA should have at least have gotten some irrefutable or at least strong evidence that the substance does in fact increase performance. As far as I know there is one study that shows Meldonium having an effect, while several other shows that it doesn't. And this is a drug that's been around since the 70's. 36 years, and they couldn't even wait to find out how long traces stays in the system.

    And if that is all that is required for something to be banned, they should ban every medicine and supplement known to man, because with almost any supplement you can find a poor study that shows it has an effect on performance.
     
  6. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    It is all about politics man, the Russkies are geopolitical foe number one of the Western hemisphere, it is the second Cold war :deal
     
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  7. NaiKoN

    NaiKoN M Power! Full Member

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    It's WADA not VADA.
     
  8. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Plenty of drugs get delegalized every year.
     
  10. Farscape

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    That was from the USA Today article posted above. No conclusive evidence yet whether it enhances performance or not, but IMHO it's better to err on the side of caution than to allow a suspicious substance.

    It might have a placebo effect, but it goes against the spirit of the sport. Also, a placebo effect usually works for patients with mental issues, but athletes know when something is having a physical effect on them, like Conte mentions in the article:

     
  11. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    You don't believe Russian success and intervention in the Syrian conflict, propping up the Assad regime, laying waste to American/NATO attempts at deposing Assad, annexing the Crimea, invading Ukraine does NOT affect politics and how the West views the Russians?
     
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  12. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Regardless it doesnt matter anyway, since Povetkin passed his drug test :happy
     
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  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    This.

    The problem with internet chemists is that they read an article for 5 minuets and suddenly their experts on the matter. There are pletny of "articles" that contradict each other. Let's wait till we here what Vada rules after seeing the second sample before acting like we're experts.
     
  14. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    if he passed then there should be no problem. I dont know why VADA did not announce that Povetkin tested positive but within the legal limits though. Hopefully the fight does go on if Povetkin really isn't in the wrong, can't wait till bomb squad beats the **** out of Povetkin :good, and once he beats him you anti black/white power posters better not be crying about how Povetkin fought WIlder off the peds so he's not the same Povetkin that fought Perez and Takam.