Jack Dempsey's Ranking

I've never defended it. I'm explaining why two blacks did not fight for the title in the US until Louis defended against Lewis .
As for the world being a big place ,it is and I'll make bet with you I've seen more of it than you!
Italy
France
Spain
Portugal
Luxembourg
Switzerland
Belgium
Sicily
Tunisia
Algeria
Morocco
Eire
Thailand
VietNam
Greece
Turkey
Hungary


How about you?

 

You've spent days defending it.

Hell, you just posted quotes from racist white promoters ... and doubled down and supported those quotes by saying "if they could've made money from black heavyweights" don't you think they would've?

Color lines weren't drawn because promoters didn't think they could make a buck. Color lines were drawn because they didn't want a black guy winning the heavyweight championship.

Promoters all over the world made a lot of money promoting fights involving two black heavyweights, or white heavyweights versus black heavyweights.

Jack Johnson should've just shut the door on the racist promoters and mindset in the U.S. The rest of the world didn't see the point of it all, either.

If white people in the U.S. got mad if their guy didn't win ... the rest of the world should've just moved on without them.

 

I have never defended racism.
Your problem is you're so thick you can't absorb anyone's posts and so obtuse you can't formulate a coherent argument to support your own gibberish. Go and waste someone else's time you numpty,you've bored the sh*t out of everyone on here with your in pathetic diatribes. You've hijacked this thread to lead an agenda driven crusade that no one gives a good f*ck about.

 

I will make an observation Dubblechin, and I hope you won’t take it the wrong way.

You only seem able to look at these events through 21st century eyes.

We are all knowledgeable boxing fans here, but some are better at stepping into an earlier era than others.

 

In the end, Dempsey and Co. were genius at winning the event. In that regard, they have no equal in terms of ingenuity and imagination.

How much that all has to do with a discussion of boxing is another matter.

 

That is what you have to conclude to make the case against Dempsey complete.

A better explanation would be that there were multiple agencies, with different agendas, which changed over time.

 

It was part of the evolution of the modern spectacle. Rickard helped reshape the athlete as cult celebrity in basically inventing modern sports marketing.

Dempsey was as character in Rickard's Grand Narrative, nothing more, and certainly not vice versa.

 

Rubish.

Ever heard of John L Sullivan?

 

A totally different scale. And we aren't talking about the fighters creating a market. We are talking about promoters making creations out of fighters. And those who study these things have had their say. Rickard completely changed the game.

 

Yes, but you are very forgiving of those who did the same, let’s say in the 1980s.

No reply to my observation in the Norton Firpo thread incidentally.

 

There was much more transparency by the 1980's. Sure, there were shenanigans but there was also no color line, more active champs and most importantly, a less gullible public.

Dude, I gotta eat. If I sit on here all day I don't make any money.

I'll get to it during boozing hour.

 

Again smoking gun shooting blanks, everything here is well known, the "pretentious Intellectual" trying hard and proving nothing.

FYI, since obviously you don't know, back in the day and now, this was just business as usual.

 

https://youtu.be/D_ZyPT1lSb8

 

ZZZZZZzzzz white people, zzzzzzz Wills zzzzz white people zzzzzz racist zzzzz prrrrrt

 

That P.I. is why we are here to discuss boxing, Jack Dempsey is an icon and only the few and the dumb dispute this.
Which are you?