Banning of meldonium was a political provocation, meldonium is not doping

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Slavic Fighter, May 22, 2016.


  1. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder is a massive coward for not taking that fight. Meldonium has nothing to do with doping whatsoever and its ban is politically motivated by Western interests to try to harm Russia's international reputation in yet another way.

    WADA has sought to make an example out of Russia ever since the German state news station ARD broadcast the documentary titled “Secret Doping Dossier: How Russia Produces Its Winners” in December 2014. Thanks to intelligence received as part of this investigation, WADA likely learned of the widespread use of meldonium by Russian athletes.

    WADA’s targeting of meldonium is a further example of its politically-motivated and coordinated effort to further tarnish Russian sports. Towards this end, WADA quickly added meldonium to its 2015 Monitoring Program. This meant that WADA would secretly test athletes for meldonium. WADA based its decision to ban meldonium on data from at least three sources.

    First, the Partnership for Clean Competition tested 8,300 random and supposedly anonymous urine tests in 2015 and found meldonium in 182 samples. Secondly, the third ARD documentary on Russia doping, “Secret Doping Dossier: Russian’s Red Herrings” referenced to an unnamed 2015 study in which 17% of Russian athletes (724 of 4,316) had metabolites of meldonium in their urine samples. And finally, a study titled “Meldonium use by athletes at the Baku 2015 European Games” accepted for future publication by the British Journal of Sports Medicine revealed that 66 of the total 762 (8.7%) of athletes in 15 of the 21 sports during the Games tested positive for meldonium.

    The meldonium data from the 2015 Monitoring Program may have allowed WADA to target Russian athletes who were known to use meldonium. Once meldonium became “illegal” on January 1, 2016, WADA was counting on the likelihood than many meldonium users would not immediately discontinue the use of the drug.

    WADA has failed miserably to detect doping in sports. It has only been able to detect less than 1% of athletes who dope while estimates of PED use range from conservative estimates of 10% to estimates over 50%. However, WADA hopes its strategy of singling out specific individuals (e.g. Lance Armstrong) and specific countries (e.g. Russia) will convince the general public that it is doing a good job at countering doping in sports. Nothing could be further from the truth.
     
  2. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    The next person to post in this thread is a cunt.
     
  3. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    “This substance was never considered as doping, it doesn’t influence the result. That’s totally certain. It just keeps the heart muscles in good condition under high load.” - Putin
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Glad you feel that way.

    Dude tested positive for a banned substance -- one you say isn't even a PED, so why does every Russian athlete pop it like candy? -- after passing three tests.

    Guilty. Time to move along.
     
  5. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Thats all above my head, all i know is if i were a pro Boxer and the authoraties said to me i am not allowed to take such a drug, well then i wouldnt take that drug. Also everything ive read about it tends to state that it can and does enhance a performance, something to do with maximising blood flow for a higher level of endurance.
     
  6. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Fukkin Putin?????? yeah he is a legitmate source who doesnt lie.
     
  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Why are so many athletes getting popped for it knowing it's a banned substance ask Victor Conte if he think its not a steroid. Funny if this is anyone else they are a dirty why is Ped Etkin any different now ?
     
  8. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pathetically sour g****s, wada is "known " as a multiple billion $$$ company that gets their kicks of off banning completely non perfornace PEDs. If one would waste their pressurance of time actaully evenstigating such idioticness they'd only be of 1 ONE conculsion eop2.0 is the most usefully used ped in decades.

    A ped that makes you train in otherwordly degrees could assume only meleoium, epo 2.0 is the best and mostly used for of epo.

    Those in denial wouldn't ever investigate because that could only conclude your pathetic and utter bias.

    This is the best ped per fighting ever to go completely under the radar. Fact, its banned and for great reason. Fighters csn fight all 12 rounds like its round 1 minute 1.

    Get a grip, you pathetic DW haters,and Povetkin grill riders. He FAILED the ped test AFTER months of passing said test. Could one imagine this garbage was pulled by usada. Seems vada is thevtrue corrupt org.

    Deal with it, 2 year ban and finally rid if of a c class hw that could fight as a b class while ped'ing 100% BANNED substances.

    Oh i know, exactly the same as fmj having h20 injected for sample purposes.

    We have more ignorance on here than ALL of youtube combined. Povetkin loses in the ring, in court and public perception DW got screwed, IF povetkin, hypothetically, assuming he wanted brain damage hed fight the B sample, but all that will show in gallons of masking agents
     
  9. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there is some truth to the first part but none in the second.
     
  10. Magges

    Magges Well-Known Member Full Member

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    embarassing post. If there are no plus sides, why not just stop taking it? Or do you seriously suggest that hundreds of high level athletes in their physical primes suffer from heart problems?

    Then quoting Dr. Putin.... ffs.
     
  11. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    Absolutely on point. US made version of meldonium is not banned.
     
  12. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    The US version?:huh Was it approved by the FDA here in America?
     
  13. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Anybody that actually believes sports and politics are not intertwined is fooling themselves, the WADA is a western puppet, if relations with the Russian Federation were NOT going downhill to cold war levels, I bet my cat and dog that this Meldonium drug would NOT magically have been banned.
     
  14. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK, slavic fighter. LMAO.
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Aw man stuf with this political cry baby talk. He knew it was banned, and was passing until he tried to cheat.:lol: