Did Joseph Parker's reputation go up or down last night?

he gets tired is the only true fact.

he landed some bombs on takam mixing the power up on the shots well

his power went down as he got tired but thats different from saying he is not a big puncher.

and winging shots / rubbish/ some of his combos were thrown with perfect form /body torque/nice tight and sharp with high elboxw and placement at speed.

 

Winging his shots doesn't always mean that that's a bad thing-George Foreman. Winging and looping shots is all a part of boxing. I've seen past fights of Parker and he throws more winging shots than straight shots. Against the top guys he can't do that. And his stamina is in question. A good heavy who goes to the body effectively will give him trouble.

 

You've seen my posts before. You need to reach 1000 posts before we can actually talk boxing.:good

 

I like to think what's happened off the forum counts more than on it when it comes to offering reasonable boxing talk, tbh - and often goes some way to have some bearing on the quality vs quality of those posts. Not saying my posts are quality, there are wiser than myself who can judge for themselves - but making over 8000 posts and getting to the quality of "Parker is a bum" says all it needs to about your post count vs their quality.

The fact I've been here twice as long as you and posted less than 10% of what you have doesn't necessarily mean I am an emptier can

 

parker for a 6.4 man is strangley most powerfull on the inside in the pocket ripping combos / he does set up a jab for a right hand over the top v lower fighters but not v takam.

i think parkers hardest shot is when he leads with a left hook and then follows it with a high elbow delivered right which the oppoent does not see coming because of his quick hands.

i have said before his feet are not as good as i thought they were pre takam and he will be kod by a puncher if he makes similar mistakes out of the pocket

parkers stamina needs attetion because this fight was fought at a slow pace outside of 2 rounds.

but it can be improved / i have a theory that like some 100m runners who cant run 200m that parker holds his breath when delivering volleys of punches and then has to take big gulps of air to get oxygen back in his lungs.

 

I agree, that COULD be possible - I've figured the possibility but moreso other factors when I mentioned that I suspect his fitness itself isn't terrible so much as how he's using it... but to be fair that kind of thing (holding breath) is VERY common in new fighters, but I had it <mostly> beaten out of me potentially within the first year of sparring and I would expect most others who have had any decent training would, too.

I'd be REALLY concerned if Parker hasn't been pushed out of that yet, breathing properly while fighting is pretty "101" type stuff and he should have had that sorted YEARS ago.

 

He's a sharp puncher, he has quick hands, but right now I see his negatives being just as equal as his positives and me judging fighters for so long I just don't see him beating a guy like Joshua. I'll be a fan if he can win that fight since he's the mandatory. I just don't see it. It's his defense and stamina.

 

I've got the "names that matter" in HVY.-wt. boxing now at seven. (No order or grade given) WILDER POVETKIN JOSHUA FURY HAYE KLITSCHKO & --JOSEPH PARKER--//Takam improved his profile as well in this one.

 

Yay we can agree on this

Very very odd thing to say. Pros and cons for a fighter can weigh up differently depending on who they are fighting - understand that becomes more evident with a lower level fighter, but there is very much a "styles make fights" type deal. Dillian Whyte COULD have beaten AJ, but it doesn't mean that Whyte's pros vs cons weigh up better than AJ's.

So you're effectively saying you can only be a fan of one boxer at a time, the one who holds the title? Must be disappointing if you are a true boxing fan but can only appreciate the talent of undisputed champions.

 

I don't have Parker rated that high. I don't have him in my top 10, but he's in my top 15 closer to 10. Now if he beats an Ortiz, Jennings, Browne or Ruiz then I'm good, but he's moving up the list because guys are losing, not because he's winning. Beating Takam is a good win, but it's being a bit overrated.

1. Tyson Fury
2.Wladimir Klitchsko
3.Deontay Wilder
4. Alexander Povetkin
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Anthony Joshua
7. Joseph Parker
8. Lucas Browne
9. Andy Ruiz
10. Bryant Jennings
11. Eric Molina
12. Kubrat Pulev
13. Bermaine Stiverne
14. Artur Szpilka
15. Charles Martin
16. Carlos Takam

To me Parker is ranked too high.

 

Parker's stock went up. It was a really good fight for him and he is going to fight again soon to work on things he did wrong in the fight...........It's time fighters fight more often.........that fight did more for him than all his other fights combined. Wilder has never fought anyone as good as Takam...............

 

^ ^ BlizzyBlizz thanks for quoting me. I look at Ortiz as being a "shadow" right now. I think he hasn't emerged yet. I rate LUCAS BROWNE above him and I see LUCAS BROWNE as rather a GATE KEEPER, standing outside the Seven I mentioned but, the closest of anyone else active to that group.
You don't RATE /DAVID HAYE! You must!

 

I noticed this before he fought Takam, it was a glaring flaw for me. It's a common mistake with overly aggressive fast fighters, they like to get off first and only think about getting off and not about what comes back. Amir Khan does the same and it was the biggest flaw in Wlad, pre-Steward.

I'm surprised Parker's team hadn't done anything to resolve this before, which is why I don't think Barry has the ability or knowledge to get the most out of a talent like Parker.

I think Takam is better than a gate keeper, he beat Thompson by a wider margin on the scorecards than Pulev and Scott and he was on even terms with Povetkin after 8 rounds. I can't think of another gatekeeper level fighter who could be on even terms with the consensus 2nd best heavyweight in the world after 8 rounds.

 

i missed it TBH
just thought he was in against gimmees so was not that concerned about his defense.

against takam it was glaring

agree with khan ****ysis

i think takam only able to fight or more importantly pressure parker for 1 min instead of for a full 3 min a round in this fight means 35 has caught up with him.

styles make fights / huck also gave povetkin a hard fight / and takam strength and chin are very good when he /was / is able to fight at a pace.

i see takams weakness as lack of snap and power in his punches v top 10 fighters / but i agree team parker need someone to come in and takeover/or help barry.

 

Yep - easy to miss